Vintage cossack jacket?

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  1. Marc mndt

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    Hi all,

    I found this vintage leather jacket online. The guy says it hasn't got a label in it and claims it's probably from the thirties. I think it looks cool and I'm tempted to make him an offer.

    Question 1: could this be thirties?
    Question 2: what's a reasonable price for something like this?

    Regards, Marc
     
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  3. handymike

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    Could be anytime from late 20s-40s.
     
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  4. tmitchell59

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    These were very popular jackets in the 20s, 30s. This is indeed a classic "Cossack" jacket, often seen in this suede style of leather, unlined with buttons, etc. They are most delicate.

    This would make a great jacket for a pattern. I'm not too sure about wearing it. May be too delicate for wear.

    Value is about condition, size, collectible.

    It is historically interesting, looks to be a 20s jacket. Such a classic style. You will find some on ebay for sale, this condition some better. Since many are too small or too delicate to wear they don't sell. I'm always on the search for this jacket. Near impossible to find above a size 40. Labels make a difference.

    The more I look, the more interesting it is, but that doesn't necessarily mean much.
     
  5. Marc mndt

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    Thanks Terry. I would love to buy something like this and wear it, but I guess that's wishful thinking. I wear a size 42, this jacket looks quite small. I asked the guy to send some measurements anyway. He's asking €120 For the jacket, maby I should buy it as an historical piece.

    Im planning to pay Fardin in Vienna a visit (Whitefeather). He makes a jacket like this. Haven't seen one of his jackets in real life yet but this one definitely looks nice:

    http://whitefeathermfg.com/produkt/a1-jacket-1920s-style-suede-version/
     
  6. tmitchell59

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    I only offer caution. This is a very, very old garment. They were delicate when new. Surprising they survived this nice..I would have questions about the upper arms and shoulder area, typical wear areas. Maybe a very soft goat suede, like a capeskin..

    To find a wearable size 42 in this original Cossack style will be a challenge. You have me to compete with and probably a few others! They just don't show up.

    Most of the current makers offer or have offered this style of jacket with additions and subtractions. There are many worthy contemporary jackets in this form. If you buy it take it to Whitefeather.

    I purchased one vintage suede ladies jackets in a somewhat Cossack style. It was affordable and a label I had not seen. This style actually continues in ladies leather jackets.

    This is the One I Want, and want to Wear. This Block looks like a Calf skin, Deerskin. I have a jacket in this same leather, but not this style.

    Hard to improve on this for an original.

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  7. tmitchell59

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    Yes, the Whitefeather is very nice. I sure they would find your jacket very interesting. Is it in Europe? That would make this jacket even more interesting to me.

    I see the Whitefeather jacket is goat suede. Looks very much like an original. I may have to talk with them. My search for an original continues, but with little thought of success.
     
  8. Marc mndt

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    It is. Offered in the south of the Netherlands, two hour drive from here so I could actually go and have a look. Why does this jacket being in Europe makes it more interesting?
     
  9. handymike

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    You might also try Thedi leathers. He has a nice pattern and many variations on this style. His buffalo looks fantastic! But so does the deerskin, and washed goat.

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  10. Matt Deckard

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    To my eye it looks like a 1920s... very dangerous if the leather is dried out, but a beautiful find. 30's just have a different feel to the look, and are often zippered because it was an easier sell.
     
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  11. Marc mndt

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    Those are beautiful! I actually tried one of those a few weeks ago. It was unlined and had a shawl collar

    :https://www.stuf-f.com/bekleidung/jacken-westen/823/thedi-leathers-unlined-shawl-collar-jacket

    Unfortunately the chest was just a bit too tight for me. Sizing up didn't work. I also tried this one which was a perfect fit :

    https://www.stuf-f.com/bekleidung/j...-leathers-shawl-collar-jacket-buffalo-leather

    Unfortunately this is a zip-up which is less to my taste. It's hard to find Thedi jackets anywhere instore. I had to drive to Germany for these. That notch-lapel jacket (first picture you posted) is stunning! Any idea where I can buy such as beauty? Do I have to visit Theodore in Greece, or is there an easier way?
     
  12. MondoFW

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    Are vintage suede jackets really too delicate for regular use today? I found a listing for a wonderful 1930s/40s suede jacket, and I thought nothing of it falling apart with wear. Now I'm having second thoughts. This one, however, is lined.
     
  13. Colin G

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    Marc, order from Thedi direct and they will ask your measurements. They can probably make a shawl collar jacket to fit your chest easily enough. You can pick whatever leather and lining combo you like. Zippers or buttons ect ect and make your own creation.
     
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    Yes, email Theodoros directly!
     
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  15. tmitchell59

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    I assume that the Cossack style originated in Eastern Europe, Russia. I see plenty of European leathers for sale, but not this classic Cossack jacket. Again, interesting to me. Without the label or other identifiable markings we can't say for certain where it was made.


    QUOTE="MondoFW, post: 2627144, member: 41567"]Are vintage suede jackets really too delicate for regular use today? I found a listing for a wonderful 1930s/40s suede jacket, and I thought nothing of it falling apart with wear. Now I'm having second thoughts. This one, however, is lined.[/QUOTE]

    No, I do not think vintage suede jackets from the 30s/40s are too delicate to wear. I have several suede jackets and capeskin from this era. I'm just more cautious of suede and capeskin when it is this old.
     
  16. Marc mndt

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    I will, Thnx!
     
  17. Rabbit

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    In reply to the OP, if you don't know what you're buying here then it's not for you. Simple as that. 20s-30s vintage leather, whether grain or suede, is a category of its own. As others have said, condition is crucial here and difficult to make out from these few photos alone.

    Other observations:
    - the second button from the bottom is a replacement
    - the others look original (no one can tell for sure, though)
    - if they are original, they're more likely to be American style (the fat rim and the curvature), not European (not French, German or Eastern)

    Me, I'd buy it if I knew the source (Google Image doesn't yield a result other than your post in this forum). But then I collect 30s vintage leather jackets.
    For someone who wants just one (or two..) jackets for frequent wear, repro is the way to go.
     
  18. Marc mndt

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    Sharp eye, I overlooked the replacement button. I think I'm going to visit the guy to see the jacket in the flesh. If the condition is reasonable and the price is right I'll buy it as an historical piece.

    What about the stains. Would you take it to a specialist leather dry cleaner to have those on the shoulder addressed, or should I just leave the jacket untouched?
     
  19. Rabbit

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    Leave it untouched. Vintage leather is best left alone as far as things like that are concerned.
     
  20. Rabbit

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    The seller won't ship or are you just heading in his direction anyway?
     

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