The rational was sales. London, Paris, New York were known cities of fashion. Manchester wasn't, though that was the centre of English hat makers since the early to mid 1800s.
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Thanks for sharing that. Now that there are fewer quality hat makers, my hope is that there is less pressure on them to make these kind of unfortunate marketing decisions just to sell a few more hats.
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Echter Velour - Soleil, possibly late 1920s early 1930. This is only marked Soleil Velour that I have encountered. The Velour is fantastica and is extreme Zephyr weight so super pliable. There is no factory mark so a mystery hat. It has very wide band and with semi Bat Wing Bow. I found this Velour back in 2017.
Hair Velour / Real (Echter) Velour / Prime (Prima) Velour Fabrikation von Damen- und Herren- Filzhüten, Der Deustchen Hutmacher Zeitung (1933)
"(The unclipped (unshorn) velour hair is called “Flamand”, in this case the hair is long, undulated, soft and glossy as it reflects a lot of light. When the tips are clipped off and the hair is ironed all around or from top to bottom one talks about “Soleil”. Most difficult is the production of upright “open” velour because in this case a particular tightness (or density?) and sturdiness of the hair is necessary and it is significantly harder to produce the same amount of gloss as where an entire, smooth surface displays.)"
If you are interested in how Echter / Real Velour was produced this is the entire article. You are not going to find this anywhere else.
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Hair Velour / Real (Echter) Velour / Prime (Prima) Velour Fabrikation von Damen- und Herren- Filzhüten, Der Deustchen Hutmacher Zeitung (1933)
"(The unclipped (unshorn) velour hair is called “Flamand”, in this case the hair is long, undulated, soft and glossy as it reflects a lot of light. When the tips are clipped off and the hair is ironed all around or from top to bottom one talks about “Soleil”. Most difficult is the production of upright “open” velour because in this case a particular tightness (or density?) and sturdiness of the hair is necessary and it is significantly harder to produce the same amount of gloss as where an entire, smooth surface displays.)"
If you are interested in how Echter / Real Velour was produced this is the entire article. You are not going to find this anywhere else.
Hair Velour / Real (Echter) Velour / Prime (Prima) Velour Fabrikation von Damen- und Herren- Filzhüten, Der Deustchen Hutmacher Zeitung (1933)
Hair Velour / Real (Echter) Velour / Prime (Prima) Velour By C.A.P. Pellaio (English Translation By ErWeSa (Wolfgang)) Fabrikation von Damen- und Herren- Filzhüten, Der Deustchen Hutmacher Zeitung (1933) "What is wool?" - "The hair of a sheep." "What’s a sheep?" - "A sheep? An animal,of course." ...
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Echter Velour - Soleil, possibly late 1920s early 1930. This is only marked Soleil Velour that I have encountered. The Velour is fantastica and is extreme Zephyr weight so super pliable. There is no factory mark so a mystery hat. It has very wide band and with semi Bat Wing Bow. I found this Velour back in 2017.
Hair Velour / Real (Echter) Velour / Prime (Prima) Velour Fabrikation von Damen- und Herren- Filzhüten, Der Deustchen Hutmacher Zeitung (1933)
"(The unclipped (unshorn) velour hair is called “Flamand”, in this case the hair is long, undulated, soft and glossy as it reflects a lot of light. When the tips are clipped off and the hair is ironed all around or from top to bottom one talks about “Soleil”. Most difficult is the production of upright “open” velour because in this case a particular tightness (or density?) and sturdiness of the hair is necessary and it is significantly harder to produce the same amount of gloss as where an entire, smooth surface displays.)"
If you are interested in how Echter / Real Velour was produced this is the entire article. You are not going to find this anywhere else.
Hair Velour / Real (Echter) Velour / Prime (Prima) Velour Fabrikation von Damen- und Herren- Filzhüten, Der Deustchen Hutmacher Zeitung (1933)
Hair Velour / Real (Echter) Velour / Prime (Prima) Velour By C.A.P. Pellaio (English Translation By ErWeSa (Wolfgang)) Fabrikation von Damen- und Herren- Filzhüten, Der Deustchen Hutmacher Zeitung (1933) "What is wool?" - "The hair of a sheep." "What’s a sheep?" - "A sheep? An animal,of course." ...
Nice old hat, brother!
Very interesting reading, Steve! Thanks for posting. I’ve a new respect for the art of making vintage velour hats and the cachet of owning vintage velour hats—of which I have around 5; all Borsalinos from the 50s.
Wonder how they rate…
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Unfortunately, I am back in the land of super slow internet. If I wait about five minutes, maybe half the photos on any given page will load. I’ll have to catch up on this thread once I get somewhere with better internet.
I am fully wrapped up here with my health. Freediving was not the panacea I hoped it would be, but it has given me lots of new information about my symptoms. This next week, I plan to consult of a traditional Thai healer on island and see what they have to say.
The weather has been cool enough here to wear mostly my Stetson silk cap. This photo doesn’t quite look like me (or at least any me that I’m used to seeing in the mirror) which is maybe why it fascinates me so much.
Best wishes to you all from a beach in Thailand.
I am fully wrapped up here with my health. Freediving was not the panacea I hoped it would be, but it has given me lots of new information about my symptoms. This next week, I plan to consult of a traditional Thai healer on island and see what they have to say.
The weather has been cool enough here to wear mostly my Stetson silk cap. This photo doesn’t quite look like me (or at least any me that I’m used to seeing in the mirror) which is maybe why it fascinates me so much.
Best wishes to you all from a beach in Thailand.
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Hoping you can finally get some relief soon.Thank you buddy. This pain is unbearable and never ending, no matter the amount of meds and steroid shots I take. At this point I'm desperate for relief, (just so I can get back to building and restoring hats for folks)!And prayers are welcome!
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Good to see you make an appearance, Nathan. Sorry you did not find the health answers you were looking for yet... but glad you are still moving forward.
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Thank you Joe. It’s a shame that health has a few of us down on this thread. I hope we can all get back up to full power real soon.
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It was good to hear from you again Nathan. I hope your health improves and you're back to your old self soon !
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This morning I want to share a hat I recently acquired. Again, another maker that I had never seen or heard of....Klondike . Any information about them would be greatly appreciated.
Hope y'all have a good 'un !
Hope y'all have a good 'un !
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I wore a Manson fedora on my morning soirée.
I enjoyed my cold brew coffee under the brim of a Stetson Playboy.
Cheers, Eric -
I enjoyed my cold brew coffee under the brim of a Stetson Playboy.
Cheers, Eric -
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Going to be a hot sunny day... Time for the Champ Featherweight... I wish I had one of these in a silver or grey. I really love these little things
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Adam
The market is different now. Plus, thanks to Manchester United (my team), the world has heard of Manchester
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New Excellent Quality bowler, maybe from the 20s? The sweatband leather is of the best quality I’ve seen and will likely last another 100 years.
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Love that one. Very cool
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That Manson is a thing of beautyI wore a Manson fedora on my morning soirée.
I enjoyed my cold brew coffee under the brim of a Stetson Playboy.
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Great to hear from you, Nathan. You're looking good, and look like yourself even though you don't feel or see it.
Don't be too sorry about slow Internet. It's good to get off the grid.
Love the cap, my friend.
Stay safe and be well.
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Sweet Bowler, Randall. Given the history of the MacDonalds and Campbells, it's interesting to see both these names on a hat...
Now that is a beauty, Randall. Looks good on you, too.
Any labels under that supple looking sweatband?
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