*Before everyone jumps at me for using all inclusives, I've decided to post this disclaimer citing "not everyone/everything blah blah blah" we cool? Okay, moving on.* WOMEN ONLY!!!!!!!!!! I've been in the vintage seen for over a decade, give or take. Been sewing my clothing for about that long as well. I've primarily been into the 1940s styles that were reminiscent of what your everyday woman would have worn during that era. I like attempting to be correct, with my own flair, of course, but my goal for the most part (tattoos and stuff aside) is to look like I could have fit into the era if a time machine came and teleported be back to 1945. There is a distinct difference between vintage and retro. For the most part, I think we all know the differences. Vintage is associated with a look and cut and hang and fabric choice of the time. The fashion of the past sort of brought into the modern era worn as if you were in the past. Retro has always been a modern interpretation on a vintage style. A neckline is liked, but perhaps a bit too "demure" and then it's deepened. Specific vintage details may be appropriated, like princess seams or pipping, and then brought into a modern dress that still carries most of its flair in contemporary times. The thing is, the layman can't often tell the difference, so these retro fashions, as different as they are from modern fashions get taken for the look of the era when the styles are simply paying homage. I bring this up because I was talking with someone who works at a vintage store and we were talking about repro fashions. She was wearing a very early (like 2000s) repro dress. It could have been mistaken for a 1945 dress if it were not for the invisible zipper up the back. It was rayon, with a modest neckline, era reminiscent print, gathered detail around the girdle, and a slightly flared skirt that hit just below the knee. It was cute, and we both adored it. We then lamented that you couldn't find repro like that anymore. "Everything is pin-up now," we concluded. Then we started to check point the looks that seemed to dominate the market. Big flared skirts with crazy (mostly non era specific) prints. Tight, bodices (often in stretch fabric) and very cleavage showing necklines. Sure, the fabrics have gotten somewhat better (more cottons and such) but the style is a distorted vision of what the mid to late 1950s would have looked like. I get that the modern pin-up look is a romanticized take on the era, that's the point, it's just now it's being considered the "look" of the time when it's really a modern vision of an incredibly stylized niche of the past, and because of it, everything else is being drown out. I get it, the Rockabilly set, and the pin-up girls with their followers are totally driving the market as to what retailers are going to produce and sell. Duh. My frustration is when I'm wearing my vintage style clothing and I get the 'compliment,' form the layman, "You look like a pin-up," I know they don't mean it as a detriment, but I can't help but feel there is something being distorted about our representation of fashions of this era. Especially when some of the pin-up girls are looking to this fashion as vintage and sometimes you have to tell them…no. I know I'm speaking to this from very myopic lenses because I live in the vintage scene, but as these nitche pin-up styles get adapted for mainstream, they start to look more costume than fashion. This isn't about demure dress versus flashy dress. It's more about chocking out a style of vintage fashion because it's not associated with pin-ups. I mean, there is a voice out there for people who want more (and dated earlier) historically correct-ish styles, and there are designers who are doing their best to cater, but it makes me wonder with the onslaut of the 'big name' pin-up clothing makers, do you think they will ever widen their umbrella to actually produce fashions not associated with pin-ups? What are your thoughts?