Seasons for your hats

[TheDane]

For a naked body, the figure is 40-50% (dependent on source) heat-loss through the head. We have a very complex regulation of brain temperature, and large amounts blood is led to the skalp to avoid overheating. When exposed to extreme cold, our blood vesels in the skin and extremeties shrinks, so we keep our core temperature pretty constant. This happens very slowly in the neck and head areas. They stay at almost the same temperature for very long, no matter how cold the surroundings get.

US Army Survival Manual (FM 21-76) mentions some "Basic Principles of Cold Weather Survival" on page 148:

"For example, always keep your head covered. You can lose 40 to 45 percent of body heat from an unprotected head and even more from the unprotected neck, wrist, and ankles. These areas of the body are good radiators of heat and have very little insulating fat. The brain is very susceptible to cold and can stand the least amount of cooling. Because there is much blood circulation in the head, most of which is on the surface, you can lose heat quickly if you do not cover your head."

The correct spelling is Celsius (after the Swedish deviser of the scale)

Not quite. Celsius' scale was reversed: Water froze at 100 and boiled at 0. Martin Strömer reversed Celsius' scale a few years after Celsius introduced it around 1740. Strömer's scale is actually the one, we use today as the "Celsius scale"

 

[fedoracentric]

If it is metric, I won't use it. Period.

 

[TheDane]

If it is metric, I won't use it. Period.

Was that a decimal "period"?

 

[-30-]

If you are going to quote, make sure that what you quote is truly that as to what was written.

Your rendition:
"how cold would it have to be in order to warrant a black fur Ushanka. 0 to - 10 degrees celcius?"

What I had written:
"how cold would it have to be in order to warrant a black fur Ushanka. 0 to - 10 degrees celcius?" [sic]"
(I was quoting APP Adrian.)

Do you see the difference; do you understand The Difference?

BTW, both he and I live in Toronto, Canada; not The US of A nor the UK..


J T

 

[Blackthorn]

Was that a decimal "period"?

 

[fedoracentric]

Was that a decimal "period"?

LOL
That is a dot.
A speck.
A mote.

 

[TheDane]

Fine with me. You have your period, just the way you like it. I'm just the metric Dane, you know :fing28:

 

[Zombie_61]

Hmmm, interesting. Where you guys live, are your Fedoras enough to be comfortable in the winter cold? Or do you guys have to resort to heavy hats such as knit caps and Ushankas. And if anyone knows, how cold would it have to be in order to warrant a black fur Ushanka. 0 to - 10 degrees celcius? Without feeling to warm of course.

I live in southern California, about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles, where the temperature rarely drops below 50°F (10°C) even in the middle of the coldest nights. As such, my experience probably won't help you, but I find my fur felt fedoras do make me feel warmer on those "cold" nights.

...I don't know why you stick to the archaic Fahrenheit scale, as I understand that the metric system and the Celsius temperature scale have been the official scales of the USA since 1842!

They might be official, but very few people here use them. Daily weather reports predict or report temperatures in Fahrenheit, and everyone I know measures distances in inches, feet, yards, miles, etc.. [huh]

 

[TheDane]

In Denmark we went metric in 1902. My dad, born in 1922, completed his training as cabinetmaker in 1940, but he still used inches up till the late 60s. Most people used meters/centimeters by then. Few things like coffee, potatoes and butter was still bought in pounds, when I was child and young man. Actually it's no more than 10 years ago I stopped ordering "half a pound" of butter in the shops. Aside from that, I have always been completely metric.

One exeption, though: If somebody asks me how wide my brim is in centimeters, I get confused and start calculating. When it comes to hats, I do all measuring in inches - of course due to TFL

I have always had some references, where I knew the metric counterpart and had a natural sense of the value: 19" (I worked many years with 19" racks), 9", 10", 11", 12" (diameter of the pot of banjos I play or have played), 32°F and 212°F (water), 68°F (I developed my own B/W films as a kid. 68° is a standard temp. and equals 20°C) - and probably some I forgot. If not near those, I have to calculate and imagine. I'm actually practicing US units while waiting for things to fall into place and I can get over the pond.

Anyway ...

1 (Swedish) Inch = 2.47 cm
1 (US/UK) Inch = 2.54 cm
1 (Danish/Norwegian) Inch = 2.62 cm

One standard is a pretty good and reasonable idea

 

[fedoracentric]

These days, due to inflation, we might have to add two or three inches to the mark!

 

[ingineer]

The nice thing about standardization is that that there are so many options.

Nice 297º Kelvin here today, thank goodness the Rankine scale is no longer used.

To the OP that should be a good hat post it here when it arrives.

If there is such a thing as a perfect cover, I've never found it.
I guess if for fashion a fedora is it, but there always are considerations.
This last brutal winter the Ushanka came out for a windy bitter cold walk to the local store when cars where buried and cramp-ones were a necessity.
To go to the Bank I want something that speaks that here is a Gentleman and i'm not here to rob you..
Lots of banks here have a no hat, sunglasses, hoodie policy
Sunny calm days a Western is just right.
Rainy days a Western big brim ( cowboy umbrella ) is called for.
Cold windy days a cap with earflaps
A leather cap for under the parka hood
The Stratoliner for wearing in the compact car.
A crush-able wooly for Maine hunting
A garden hat.
When it's hot and muggy, a Tilley or a panama, rotate these like shoes.
A watch cap just because it seems right with a Pea coat.
Something packable for the motorcycle saddle bags
A couple of Buffs for under the helmet.
A boonie for the get out of dodge pack.

I will close because of being pedantic

Richard

 

[ingineer]

Some things just don't translate.
After all, 28.35 grams of prevention is worth 0.454 kilograms of cure.
Richard

 

[Joao Encarnado]

Too much math here.

 

[APP Adrian]

I agree. I'll probably buy both for 200$.

 

[GHT]

In Denmark we went metric in 1902. My dad, born in 1922, completed his training as cabinetmaker in 1940, but he still used inches up till the late 60s. Most people used meters/centimeters by then. Few things like coffee, potatoes and butter was still bought in pounds, when I was child and young man. Actually it's no more than 10 years ago I stopped ordering "half a pound" of butter in the shops. Aside from that, I have always been completely metric.

One exeption, though: If somebody asks me how wide my brim is in centimeters, I get confused and start calculating. When it comes to hats, I do all measuring in inches - of course due to TFL

I have always had some references, where I knew the metric counterpart and had a natural sense of the value: 19" (I worked many years with 19" racks), 9", 10", 11", 12" (diameter of the pot of banjos I play or have played), 32°F and 212°F (water), 68°F (I developed my own B/W films as a kid. 68° is a standard temp. and equals 20°C) - and probably some I forgot. If not near those, I have to calculate and imagine. I'm actually practicing US units while waiting for things to fall into place and I can get over the pond.

Anyway ...

1 (Swedish) Inch = 2.47 cm
1 (US/UK) Inch = 2.54 cm
1 (Danish/Norwegian) Inch = 2.62 cm

One standard is a pretty good and reasonable idea

Whilst we are force fed a diet of metric, every television program that never used to quote weights or measures, now tells us how many kilometres or how many grams it is. When it's thrust down my throat I simply baulk at it. The metric police in the UK must be seething that our road signs are in miles, new cars are sold quoting their MPG and when it comes to the metric boy racers, every single one will tell you what their car can do in a standing start from nought to sixty, mph of course.

Today I'm venturing out into the teeth of storm Dennis. I shall be wearing my size ten spectator shoes, the burgundy baggy trousers that my wife made for me, thirty eight inch middle, (I lost a waist years ago) thirty one inch inside leg, and a two inch turned up cuff. My shirt has a sixteen and a half inch collar, the maroon blazer is a size forty four, as is the trenchcoat. The hat is a rather large, seven and three quarters. best button up and jam the hat on tight, Storm Dennis is gusting at seventy miles an hour.

 

[TheOldFashioned]

Whilst we are force fed a diet of metric, every television program that never used to quote weights or measures, now tells us how many kilometres or how many grams it is. When it's thrust down my throat I simply baulk at it. The metric police in the UK must be seething that our road signs are in miles, new cars are sold quoting their MPG and when it comes to the metric boy racers, every single one will tell you what their car can do in a standing start from nought to sixty, mph of course.

Today I'm venturing out into the teeth of storm Dennis. I shall be wearing my size ten spectator shoes, the burgundy baggy trousers that my wife made for me, thirty eight inch middle, (I lost a waist years ago) thirty one inch inside leg, and a two inch turned up cuff. My shirt has a sixteen and a half inch collar, the maroon blazer is a size forty four, as is the trenchcoat. The hat is a rather large, seven and three quarters. best button up and jam the hat on tight, Storm Dennis is gusting at seventy miles an hour.
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You are definitely too classy and stylish for this wind breaker, but I saw it on eBay the other day and thought of you:

Been waiting for a quasi-appropriate opportunity to post this. Might actually come in handy for Storm Dennis.

 

[Frunobulax]

There used to be a sign on I-75 going south between Dayton and Cincinnati:

"Metric signs next 100 miles."

 

[GHT]

You are definitely too classy and stylish for this wind breaker, but I saw it on eBay the other day and thought of you:
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Been waiting for a quasi-appropriate opportunity to post this. Might actually come in handy for Storm Dennis.

Classy & stylish eh? Your compliments and comments, are a right ego boost, and you are right about that MG wind breaker, not for me. If you look up MG Clothing Catalogue you will find a plethora of MG insignia clothing, some are quite expensive but there's no shortage of takers. There's just not enough time to go to MG meetings, it's why I have never joined an MG club, but now and then I get an arm twist from one or two owners that I know. The general hub-bub of chatter always turns into a silent hush when Tina and I step out of our car. Can't think why.

There used to be a sign on I-75 going south between Dayton and Cincinnati:

"Metric signs next 100 miles."

Metric signs next 100 miles, best oxymoron I've seen in a good while. The New Forest is maintained by a body known as The Forestry Commission. As quangos go, they can hold their own at stupidity.

 

[belfastboy]

Classy & stylish eh? Your compliments and comments, are a right ego boost, and you are right about that MG wind breaker, not for me. If you look up MG Clothing Catalogue you will find a plethora of MG insignia clothing, some are quite expensive but there's no shortage of takers. There's just not enough time to go to MG meetings, it's why I have never joined an MG club, but now and then I get an arm twist from one or two owners that I know. The general hub-bub of chatter always turns into a silent hush when Tina and I step out of our car. Can't think why.


Metric signs next 100 miles, best oxymoron I've seen in a good while. The New Forest is maintained by a body known as The Forestry Commission. As quangos go, they can hold their own at stupidity.
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We travel in the Western US for 3-4 months each year specializing in out of the way small towns and middle of nowheres. Many of the road signage has very distinct bullet holes or shotgun pellet dents....some rendered unreadable from the damage. I always think it is a good signal of a healthy disdain for government and their attempts at regulating the citizenry.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

We travel in the Western US for 3-4 months each year specializing in out of the way small towns and middle of nowheres. Many of the road signage has very distinct bullet holes or shotgun pellet dents....some rendered unreadable from the damage. I always think it is a good signal of a healthy disdain for government and their attempts at regulating the citizenry.

I’ve never thought about it that way. I agree that a general distrust of government and constant chaffing at restrictions is a most positive thing.