Coronado indigo blue deer leather jacket

[cbez]

The shoulder is either some sun fading or I think more likely, stretch from the sewing process or being on hanger.

When you lightly dye a soft stretchy leather like deer, then stretch it, the dye will look lighter in that area because now there is less total dye relative to the surface area. You can see it stretched some in those areas because the grain is also less prominent.

For $900 you can always ask if they'll exchange for another, but if your goal is to get a heavily patina'd indigo jacket I guess I don't see the big issue.

 

[Jabbott1212]

The shoulder is either some sun fading or I think more likely, stretch from the sewing process or being on hanger.

When you lightly dye a soft stretchy leather like deer, then stretch it, the dye will look lighter in that area because now there is less total dye relative to the surface area. You can see it stretched some in those areas because the grain is also less prominent.

For $900 you can always ask if they'll exchange for another, but if your goal is to get a heavily patina'd indigo jacket I guess I don't see the big issue.

Cbez..ok gotcha..yeah I’m not interested in a pristine leather product looking like the day it was produced forever.I think an aged patina looks great..appreciate your response. Thanks.

 

[AeroFan_07]

I agree with cbez - this jacket appears to have some light exposure while sitting on a hanger in a window.
I have a vest that was sold to me this way for a discount (Black waxed cotton) but I was there in person to check it out before paying for it. You could live with it or return it. Dose not look too bad but I could go either way. For $900 USD that's something you should have been made aware of ahead of receiving the jacket.

 

[jchance]

You should either ask for a new jacket without the fading, or ask for a discount to keep this jacket.

 

[Jabbott1212]

I agree with cbez - this jacket appears to have some light exposure while sitting on a hanger in a window.
I have a vest that was sold to me this way for a discount (Black waxed cotton) but I was there in person to check it out before paying for it. You could live with it or return it. Dose not look too bad but I could go either way. For $900 USD that's something you should have been made aware of ahead of receiving the jacket.

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Thanks for the response aero…you are rt on all fronts…if this was $400 I’d have a little more understanding but they should have given me that info..luckily..at least on paper..they have 30 day return policy. Im starting to lean a little more to returning it and waiting for one of the double helix indigo blues to be in my size and liking

 

[Jabbott1212]

You should either ask for a new jacket without the fading, or ask for a discount to keep this jacket.

Yeah thanks jchance..I agree. They def should have informed me before shipping this and offered a discount if I still wanted it…either poor QA or they hoped I wouldn’t care..either way I don’t like the vibe..I’m thinking about returning it and waiting for a double helix blue indigo in my size to come available..thanks again for all the help..I’m learning a lot on this forum and I really appreciate everyone’s attitude and knowledge!

 

[TartuWolf]

I kinda feel like OP is missing the point and is lost in irrelevancy. Does the jacket fit well? Do you feel good in it? Do you like it? Those questions are MUCH more important than some leather marks or slight color inconsistencies. If you want a perfect jacket buy a heavily pigmented one where you can't even see the leather with all of it's imperfections. This looks like lovely analiline blue/indigo leather to me.
Post some (proper! buttoned up, shirt tucked in, from front, side and back, use a timer..) fit pics and then we give your our opinions on whether to keep it or not.

 

[cbez]

I doubt it was in a window, more likely just the weight of being on a hanger stretched that soft leather slightly. Note that section is also smoother.

Imagine you put some sharpie on playdough and then stretch it out. The color will look lighter.

Id call it an inevitable result of a soft, stretchy leather like deer and an indigo topcoat.

 

[jchance]

I kinda feel like OP is missing the point and is lost in irrelevancy. Does the jacket fit well? Do you feel good in it? Do you like it? Those questions are MUCH more important than some leather marks or slight color inconsistencies. If you want a perfect jacket buy a heavily pigmented one where you can't even see the leather with all of it's imperfections. This looks like lovely analiline blue/indigo leather to me.
Post some (proper! buttoned up, shirt tucked in, from front, side and back, use a timer..) fit pics and then we give your our opinions on whether to keep it or not.

I sort of agree from an objective standpoint, but subjectively for OP, if he has already asked these many questions not about the fit, but about the condition of the new jacket, he’s not going to like it long-term. There would always doubts in his mind later on that aren’t going to resolve themselves and nag at him. We aren’t going to be able to convince his irrational mind about this. If he’s going to pay full price, he should be 100% happy with it, before even considering fit. He might feel ok if he got it at a good discount, but that’s not the case here. He is still within his return window.

 

[Jabbott1212]

I kinda feel like OP is missing the point and is lost in irrelevancy. Does the jacket fit well? Do you feel good in it? Do you like it? Those questions are MUCH more important than some leather marks or slight color inconsistencies. If you want a perfect jacket buy a heavily pigmented one where you can't even see the leather with all of it's imperfections. This looks like lovely analiline blue/indigo leather to me.
Post some (proper! buttoned up, shirt tucked in, from front, side and back, use a timer..) fit pics and then we give your our opinions on whether to keep it or not.

Hey tartuwolf…yeah I hear u..I don’t necessarily want a perfect jacket..I would like it to age overtime..I guess my issue is that bc of the process of chrome dying the deerskin..will the fading/aging look like a nicely beat up leather jacket that’s made to last a lifetime or will it look like a cheap mall jacket that has some fading bc the dying process *****. I’m sorry if I’m not expressing it correctly or am just plain wrong…as I’m just learning about higher end leather jackets..I’m also rethinking about whether or not to spend a little more on the double helix take on blue indigo with horshide…I live in Florida so I really want just a couple of leathers in a lighter color palette …I’ll post some fit pics, etc of the current jacket when I’m home…thanks so much for your help

 

[jchance]

will the fading/aging look like a nicely beat up leather jacket that’s made to last a lifetime or will it look like a cheap mall jacket that has some fading bc the dying process *****. I’m sorry if I’m not expressing it correctly or am just plain wrong…

Idk what a nicely beat up leather jacket looks to you, or what a cheap mall jacket looks to you, but I can tell you that the shoulder fading from hanging either by the window or by sagging from the hanger is an abnormal look. Maybe that fading looks more like a cheap mall jacket that isn’t properly dyed? I’d prob think so. If you google leather jackets with patinas from long-term usage, the patinas usually come from stress points like elbows, cuffs, where there are a lot of friction and contacts with other objects with use.

Btw this jacket has a lot of blemishes, circled below, not just fading.

OP is a size 42–typical American size. Generally he’s not going to fit or look good in Japanese leather jackets, with few exceptions. I’m going to guess the Flat Head’s wide shoulder works better for him in terms of fit than Y’2, which caters to Japanese smaller bodyframe. If he likes blue deer, Lost Worlds has deer in navy color (which costs over $3k) but there’s almost no fading there.

 

[TartuWolf]

Hey tartuwolf…yeah I hear u..I don’t necessarily want a perfect jacket..I would like it to age overtime..I guess my issue is that bc of the process of chrome dying the deerskin..will the fading/aging look like a nicely beat up leather jacket that’s made to last a lifetime or will it look like a cheap mall jacket that has some fading bc the dying process *****. I’m sorry if I’m not expressing it correctly or am just plain wrong…as I’m just learning about higher end leather jackets..I’m also rethinking about whether or not to spend a little more on the double helix take on blue indigo with horshide…I live in Florida so I really want just a couple of leathers in a lighter color palette …I’ll post some fit pics, etc of the current jacket when I’m home…thanks so much for your help

If you can return this jacket without incuring expenses AND get a double helix or an indigo y2 with possibility to return without incuring expenses then you CAN invest the time and effort to "shop around" and compare. And if you are not feeling sure about this jacket (at this full price I'd expect to be absolutely in love with it, but people have different price standards) then it might make sense for you to postpone the gratification, return this one and continue searching.
Sure it's not a very reputable maker but the leather looks good to my eye and I don't believe brands would waste deerskin to make **** - if you already have a premium leather it's probably finished well and won't look like a cheap mall jacket with time. Yes Double Helix and Y2 are more reputable and "premium" due to being well know JP brands, but you likely won't get indigo deer from them, only indigo horse which will have very different characteristics than deer (which has very unique properties).
I don't have a strong opinion on Coronado. Their jackets look pretty meh, cuts seem very straight down for "dad bods" as they like to say (funny enough that's the ideal ancient greekphysique - massive trunk like core, not a V body builder):
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...ck-on-coronado-leather-co.118811/post-3178393

 

[TartuWolf]

I'll correct myself about deerskin not available in JP, before someone else does. No signs of indigo deerskin though..
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...-25th-anniversary-initial-impressions.115099/
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBc3d3rTIPe/
Anyway I'm much more fascinated with the indigo horse from Y2 and how beautifully it ages and fades:
https://y-2leather.com/en/aging/113?srsltid=AfmBOoqBnPbG06a8s00n9Z-WDEKlFF8DRIdWQd69psOItCxYAzpZ5HfZ

 

[cbez]

I think the jacket will end up looking pretty cool. It would be hard/impossible to replicate the pattern, deer, indigo combo. If you don't want fades gets navy jacket not indigo.

I had this indigo from blue blue japan once upon a time, lots of pull up and very susceptible to marks.

 

[Mickiemac]

I got this Aero Type III back in Sept. 2022. I think I paid around $760.00USD (or thereabouts).

After 3 years it still looks the same only more broken in. This image is from January 2024.

The deerskin version of your jacket is quite nice but seems to lack that 'special something' that the Aero radiates.

Paying $900.00 is not too bad and is about $500.00 or so less than a comparable Aero but with the additional flaws you referenced, I'd send the jacket back for a replacement or full refund.

Regardless of your actions, it's a Type III and you can't go wrong with that.

 

[Jabbott1212]

I'll correct myself about deerskin not available in JP, before someone else does. No signs of indigo deerskin though..
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...-25th-anniversary-initial-impressions.115099/
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBc3d3rTIPe/
Anyway I'm much more fascinated with the indigo horse from Y2 and how beautifully it ages and fades:
https://y-2leather.com/en/aging/113?srsltid=AfmBOoqBnPbG06a8s00n9Z-WDEKlFF8DRIdWQd69psOItCxYAzpZ5HfZ

That indigo horse is pretty sweet..it looks like the aging will be fantastic

 

[Jabbott1212]

I got this Aero Type III back in Sept. 2022. I think I paid around $760.00USD (or thereabouts).

After 3 years it still looks the same only more broken in. This image is from January 2024.

The deerskin version of your jacket is quite nice but seems to lack that 'special something' that the Aero radiates.

Paying $900.00 is not too bad and is about $500.00 or so less than a comparable Aero but with the additional flaws you referenced, I'd send the jacket back for a replacement or full refund.

Regardless of your actions, it's a Type III and you can't go wrong with that.

Thanks mickie..yeah I’ve decided to send it back..mostly bc of the delivery condition..the horsehide is very nice and supple. Im just a little suspect on the dyeing process. I’ll post whatever I get and give my report. Thanks a lot.

 

[Rakusak]

For what its worth, there has been a growing amount of disclaimers by manufacturers to counter similiar inquiries like the "defects" mentioned in this thread, clarifying the natural product and imperfections are part of it. Yes, there are different grades of leather, but also depending on the leather (animal), there may be more or less "imperfections". A skilled tailor will hide these, vs showcasing them on the promenade areas of a jacket or garment. Y2 for example prides themselves on this, and yet they still have the "beauty marks" of the hide to showcase the true nature of the product. Not having any marks should use a lot more leather and result in more "waste" cutoffs. As others have said indigo (and there are various version of this) may not have as good a bind to the material = fade. In this case Deerskin is also a soft and may also be more susseptible to future marks. If the "new" marks bother you and the fade bothers you. I can't see how you will enjoy it as it breaks in shows its true character of its lifetime. Some people seek this out (marks, fade, etc.).

 

[Jabbott1212]

For what it’s worth, there has been a growing amount of disclaimers by manufacturers to counter similiar inquiries like the "defects" mentioned in this thread, clarifying the natural product and imperfections are part of it. Yes, there are different grades of leather, but also depending on the leather (animal), there may be more or less "imperfections". A skilled tailor will hide these, vs showcasing them on the promenade areas of a jacket or garment. Y2 for example prides themselves on this, and yet they still have the "beauty marks" of the hide to showcase the true nature of the product. Not having any marks should use a lot more leather and result in more "waste" cutoffs. As others have said indigo (and there are various version of this) may not have as good a bind to the material = fade. In this case Deerskin is also a soft and may also be more susseptible to future marks. If the "new" marks bother you and the fade bothers you. I can't see how you will enjoy it as it breaks in shows its true character of its lifetime. Some people seek this out (marks, fade, etc.).

For what its worth, there has been a growing amount of disclaimers by manufacturers to counter similiar inquiries like the "defects" mentioned in this thread, clarifying the natural product and imperfections are part of it. Yes, there are different grades of leather, but also depending on the leather (animal), there may be more or less "imperfections". A skilled tailor will hide these, vs showcasing them on the promenade areas of a jacket or garment. Y2 for example prides themselves on this, and yet they still have the "beauty marks" of the hide to showcase the true nature of the product. Not having any marks should use a lot more leather and result in more "waste" cutoffs. As others have said indigo (and there are various version of this) may not have as good a bind to the material = fade. In this case Deerskin is also a soft and may also be more susseptible to future marks. If the "new" marks bother you and the fade bothers you. I can't see how you will enjoy it as it breaks in shows its true character of its lifetime. Some people seek tothis out (marks, fade, etc.).

For what its worth, there has been a growing amount of disclaimers by manufacturers to counter similiar inquiries like the "defects" mentioned in this thread, clarifying the natural product and imperfections are part of it. Yes, there are different grades of leather, but also depending on the leather (animal), there may be more or less "imperfections". A skilled tailor will hide these, vs showcasing them on the promenade areas of a jacket or garment. Y2 for example prides themselves on this, and yet they still have the "beauty marks" of the hide to showcase the true nature of the product. Not having any marks should use a lot more leather and result in more "waste" cutoffs. As others have said indigo (and there are various version of this) may not have as good a bind to the material = fade. In this case Deerskin is also a soft and may also be more susseptible to future marks. If the "new" marks bother you and the fade bothers you. I can't see how you will enjoy it as it breaks in shows its true character of its lifetime. Some people seek this out (marks, fade, etc.).

Thanks rakusac….yeah I kinda returned it on principal…bc I don’t like that it arrived that way..I think..I’d rather get a horsehide that develops a rich, interesting patina then a deerskin that seems suspect in terms of dyeing from this company..I returned it…I could be wrong but I’m looking now at the double helix indigo blue leather that is designed to age with the white core being exposed…at least there’s some history there with premium leather acquirers..thanks so much for the help!