Are bash definitions uniform or varied by culture?

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I took a hat into a shop (one that has been recommended here) yesterday for a cleaning and rebash. The owner asked if I wanted the standard teardrop and I said or a C crown would be fine also. To which he pointed to a hat with what we here would call a center dent (aka a hat with no C shape at all) and referred to that as a C Crown hat.

This of course does not fill me with a lot of confidence in the work I will receive. How can the owner not know what a C Crown is? But I'm wondering if its just a cultural difference in terms and a term I might assume everyone knows and uses just isn't the case.

So anyone ever hear of center dent fedora called a C Crown or should I be afraid, very afraid?

 

[fmw]

Just a guess. I assume the hatter wanted to make sure you didn't mean center dent.

 

[gtdean48]

My take is he thought the C you were stating was short for Center therefore his reference to Center Crease instead of a "C" crease.
JMHO... As long as you have a local hatter, you should not feel afraid but fortunate...

 

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My take is he thought the C you were stating was short for Center therefore his reference to Center Crease instead of a "C" crease.
JMHO... As long as you have a local hatter, you should not feel afraid but fortunate...

That seems a reasonable interpretation. C crown and center crease could easily be interchanged.

Local doesn't mean good though. I went into another local shop last year (which has since closed) to buy a hat brush. The gentleman in the store was seated and reading a newspaper. After looking about the shop a bit I asked him if they had any hat brushes for sale. He glanced up from his paper and in a bothered tone he replied "Hat brushes? No. Just use any old brush." and went back to reading his paper.

 

[scotrace]

Even the word "Bash" is suspect.

 

[EggHead]

"C Crown" would be difficult to bash if there is no "C" your native alphabet and you don't know English.

 

[Tone]

Why not have them leave it open crowned for you to style yourself? You can "bash" in whatever top dent you choose without fussing over what it's called. [huh]

 

[danofarlington]

I took a hat into a shop (one that has been recommended here) yesterday for a cleaning and rebash. The owner asked if I wanted the standard teardrop and I said or a C crown would be fine also. To which he pointed to a hat with what we here would call a center dent (aka a hat with no C shape at all) and referred to that as a C Crown hat.

This of course does not fill me with a lot of confidence in the work I will receive. How can the owner not know what a C Crown is? But I'm wondering if its just a cultural difference in terms and a term I might assume everyone knows and uses just isn't the case.

So anyone ever hear of center dent fedora called a C Crown or should I be afraid, very afraid?

The poor fellow must have been confused. He probably thought he was working in a shoe store.

 

[scottyrocks]

A teardrop and C are similar. Neither is a center dent. I'd be suspicious. And I'd crease it myself, anyway.

 

[tteej]

yes teardrop and C are similar one

 

[HatsEnough]

I never heard the word "bash" until I started coming here. I always heard it called a "crease" or "dent" instead. I am also aware that some western dent names were specific to certain areas of the country. So, yeah, I can see creases having different names in different parts of the world. Still, a "C" crease seems pretty obvious to me! I would probably have risen my eyebrows at that one, too.

 

[SgtRick]

That seems a reasonable interpretation. C crown and center crease could easily be interchanged.

Local doesn't mean good though. I went into another local shop last year (which has since closed) to buy a hat brush. The gentleman in the store was seated and reading a newspaper. After looking about the shop a bit I asked him if they had any hat brushes for sale. He glanced up from his paper and in a bothered tone he replied "Hat brushes? No. Just use any old brush." and went back to reading his paper.

Sounds like a good explanation as to why his shop is no longer around.