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German & Austrian Hutmachers

upegelow

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Düsseldorf, Germany
I know that Mayser had the license to make Stetson Hats in Germany. Your hat could be later when Friedrich W. Schneider (F.W.S.) Köln took over the Stetson brand for Europe which they have to this day. F.W.S. sourced hats from different hat companies. Is this the only paper label behind the sweatband?

As I mentioned above It's also possible Oberwalder Wien or some other company in Austria had the license for Stetson when this hat was made but I would have to look into that.

Mayser "In 1954, Curt M. Zechbauer's son, Peter M. Zechbauer, acquires the licence of the American hat factory of Stetson for Mayser."

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/3-mayser-hutfabrik/

F.W.S. (Stetson Europe 1998)

https://fwshats.de/historie/?lang=en

Can you please provide a photo of the Stetson foil stamp at the rear of the sweatband?

Thanks for your nice reply and all the background information you gave In fact this is a very nice hat in almost mint condition, not even dusted. Plus I got it for only 10 EUR which I regard as a real bargain. I also got a 60s Habig Homburg hat from the same seller. I will post photos later when I am back from holidays.

Back to the Stetson/Oberwalder hat: it does not seem to have any other paper label, only this Stetson foil stamp at the sweatband as you indicated:

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Maryland
Thanks for your nice reply and all the background information you gave In fact this is a very nice hat in almost mint condition, not even dusted. Plus I got it for only 10 EUR which I regard as a real bargain. I also got a 60s Habig Homburg hat from the same seller. I will post photos later when I am back from holidays.

Back to the Stetson/Oberwalder hat: it does not seem to have any other paper label, only this Stetson foil stamp at the sweatband as you indicated:

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Thank you for posting the photo. The reason I asked is Mayser used a similar foil stamp in probably the same time period as your Stetson (see photo). I think it's highly likely Mayser made your Stetson and Overland Wien sourced from Mayser. Looking forward to seeing your P. & C. Habig Wien Homburg.

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Maryland
Ottmar Reich, measures 58cm, possibly 1920s. I found this Straw back in November 2016 but I didn't realize until recently it originally had a Mother of Pearl button at the bottom of the Bow. I searched around and found a vintage Mother of Pearl button that worked so here it is again.

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The white thread at the bottom of the Bow was the location of the original Mother of Pearl button. This photo is from 11/11/2016.

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Steve1857

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Ottmar Reich, measures 58cm, possibly 1920s. I found this Straw back in November 2016 but I didn't realize until recently it originally had a Mother of Pearl button at the bottom of the Bow. I searched around and found a vintage Mother of Pearl button that worked so here it is again.

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The white thread at the bottom of the Bow was the location of the original Mother of Pearl button. This photo is from 11/11/2016.

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Absolutely gorgeous, Steve. Love it from top to toe, inside and out. The liner is the icing inside the cake.
 
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Nederland
Ottmar Reich, measures 58cm, possibly 1920s. I found this Straw back in November 2016 but I didn't realize until recently it originally had a Mother of Pearl button at the bottom of the Bow. I searched around and found a vintage Mother of Pearl button that worked so here it is again.

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The white thread at the bottom of the Bow was the location of the original Mother of Pearl button. This photo is from 11/11/2016.

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It's a beauty. Not a surprise, as they were a straw hat manufacturer first and foremost.
 
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Maryland
Not my hat, but worth posting for posterity because they rarely pop up.
J. Heinr. Ita extra qualität fedora in a size 56. Listed as marine blue, but you wouldn't say that from the pictures.

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Stefan, Thank you for posting the photos! It's great to see a J. Heinr. ITA. I think it's an older one too.
 

TheHatGirl

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Victoria, Australia
Looking for info on my Fraenkel hat how old could this one be?
 

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Thank you for posting here. As I mentioned I am not sure of the time period. I am not familiar with Women's styles. Is there a paper label behind the grosgrain band?

You will find information on S. J. Fraenkel Wien, Ebreichsdorfer Filzhutfabrik on my website.

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/12-s-j-fraenkel-wien/

Ebreichsdorfer Heimatmuseum (S. & J. Fraenkel Hat Factory / Ebreichsdorfer Felt Hat Factory) March 10, 2017

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/301-ebreichsdorfer-heimatmuseum-s-j-fraenkel-hat-factory-ebreichsdorfer-felt-hat-factory-march-10-2017/

Please post it here too.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/german-austrian-hutmachers.32103/page-5
 
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Maryland
Resistol - R. & M. Wegener "Majestic" "Self Conforming" "Kitten Finish", 58 cm, possibly late 1950s early 1960s. This Homburg Hat was "Made In License In Germany" by R. & M. Wegener. R. & M. Wegener received the license to produce Resistol Hats in 1958. This is a very fine made Homburg Hat and similar quality as branded R. & M. Wegener Homburg Hats of the same time period.

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R. & M. Wegener - Resistol Garland Texas

Klaus Theodor Wegener and Hans Wegener took over the management after 1945. Klaus Theodor Wegener was responsible for initiating the extraordinary relationships to several hat companies in the United States and after working in Garland, Texas at Resistol, R. & M. Wegener was granted the license to produce Resistol hats in Germany from 1958 onwards.
 

Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
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Denmark
Resistol - R. & M. Wegener "Majestic" "Self Conforming" "Kitten Finish", 58 cm, possibly late 1950s early 1960s. This Homburg Hat was "Made In License In Germany" by R. & M. Wegener. R. & M. Wegener received the license to produce Resistol Hats in 1958. This is a very fine made Homburg Hat and similar quality as branded R. & M. Wegener Homburg Hats of the same time period.

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Open Crown

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R. & M. Wegener - Resistol Garland Texas

Klaus Theodor Wegener and Hans Wegener took over the management after 1945. Klaus Theodor Wegener was responsible for initiating the extraordinary relationships to several hat companies in the United States and after working in Garland, Texas at Resistol, R. & M. Wegener was granted the license to produce Resistol hats in Germany from 1958 onwards.
Super find, Steve.

It's quite reminiscent of a Wegener Colonel I have from the same time period.
 
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18,123
Location
Nederland
Resistol - R. & M. Wegener "Majestic" "Self Conforming" "Kitten Finish", 58 cm, possibly late 1950s early 1960s. This Homburg Hat was "Made In License In Germany" by R. & M. Wegener. R. & M. Wegener received the license to produce Resistol Hats in 1958. This is a very fine made Homburg Hat and similar quality as branded R. & M. Wegener Homburg Hats of the same time period.

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Open Crown

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R. & M. Wegener - Resistol Garland Texas

Klaus Theodor Wegener and Hans Wegener took over the management after 1945. Klaus Theodor Wegener was responsible for initiating the extraordinary relationships to several hat companies in the United States and after working in Garland, Texas at Resistol, R. & M. Wegener was granted the license to produce Resistol hats in Germany from 1958 onwards.
Cool find, Steve. These licensed Resistols are excellent quality. Don't think I've seen them in colours though.
 
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Maryland
Cool find, Steve. These licensed Resistols are excellent quality. Don't think I've seen them in colours though.
Stefan, Thanks! I haven't seen a non black Resistol Homburg Hat but my guess is they had them because Wegener had brown, gray and blue Homburg Hats. Could be that there were far less Resistol - Wegener Homburg Hats and black was by far the most common color. That's just a guess. :)
 

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