German & Austrian Hutmachers

[yttclothing]

This one by Huber would be great if it weren't for the moth bites, made of Mohair

 

[ManofKent]

Nice finds Paddy, I particularly like the pork pie.

 

[Chepstow]

Thanks Paddy, great bunch for you too! The Huber Pork Pie has the same ribbon work as mine!

 

[mayserwegener]

Paddy, Great finds! I have a Hückel Clipper and it's a fun hat to wear. I believe Manfred has / had one too. The Huber is really fantastic. It's too bad it has some mothing. I believe I have come across the Huber make before but need to check.

Update: I have a Trachten Hubertus and my hatter friend from Germany thought this mark was associated with Friedrich W. Schneider GmbH & Co. KG, Cologne (currently own Stetson Europe). By the way I would say your Huber is late 50s (same with the Hückel Weilheim Clipper).

 

[MrCairo]

Great stuff, Manfred. Dusseldorf isn't that far away, perhaps I should check out the flea market there some day - though I already get dizzy in the (much smaller) one here in Rotterdam...

 

[Chepstow]

Thanks, Mr.Cairo.
We should meet us there and I can help you If you will be dizzy. Haha
This flea market is every month on Sunday!



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[Baron Kurtz]

Nice Manfred. What kind of prices generally for hats in your flea markets? Still good deals or sellers are more aware of value?

Anyone heard of the brand Super Boreal? It was sold by a hatter in Baden, Switzerland and I found it in a Barcelona flea market . I'll post it here when I get back to London.

 

[Chepstow]

Pete, thanks. Prices are between 3 and 20 EUR! It's different. I got a Borsalino also for 10 EUR!

 

[MrCairo]

Those are great prices! I'll definitely let you know if I head on over there some day!

 

[MrCairo]

By the way, anybody got some more information on the Nobleza? Here are pictures of the logo and label again:

 

[mayserwegener]

I might have had some info on that mark but I can't find or recall it. I will update if I find something.

 

[mayserwegener]

Anyone heard of the brand Super Boreal? It was sold by a hatter in Baden, Switzerland and I found it in a Barcelona flea market . I'll post it here when I get back to London.

That name doesn't come up in any of my Swiss hat company lists (also nothing listed for Baden, Switzerland). I would definitely be interested in seeing it.

 

[Chepstow]

Those are great prices! I'll definitely let you know if I head on over there some day!

You are welcome my friend!

 

[Baron Kurtz]

That name doesn't come up in any of my Swiss hat company lists (also nothing listed for Baden, Switzerland). I would definitely be interested in seeing it.

Cool. In lieu of pictures (to come later today) the brand, as I say, is Super Boreal with Dépose under the main manufacturer's sweatband mark, and the hatter's mark states Chapellerie W. Kaufmann Baden. I'm assuming this is Baden, Switzerland, and not some kind of weird reference to the Grand Duchy. There was originally a sticker in the top of the unlined crown. There is a mark for the sweatband maker, which I will have to photoshop to read as I can only see some of it, the rest being faded. The sweatband also has a cryptic price mark Rmt 12,-. Anyone know who would have used this kind of designation? The "1" in this mark is "German style" with ascender beginning at the baseline, also a comma instead of a period. The sweatband bears typical European lead initial "cabochons".

I am certain that the hat dates to the 1920s or early 1930s. Though it has a page from a Swiss sports magazine from 1948 behind the sweatband to reduce size (scan/photo coming later, too), this would have been introduced later, and would not likely have been put in at the time of purchase.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

OK. Super Boreal, sold by W. Kaufmann of Baden.

Crown naturally returns to this fancy pants S-shaped crease.

Super Boreal is printed all around the top of the sweatband.

I love this size label.

I think I read FILET TOUT LA TOUR DU CUIR, Modele Depose ???????, No 40300

 

[Baron Kurtz]

In action hunting through a pile of 1930s ties at Els Encants Vells a couple days after finding the hat.

The page of Illustrierte Rundschau from October 1948, tucked in behind the sweatband.

 

[mayserwegener]

That is a really super hat (interesting felt blend) and series of photos! I agree it's 1930s or older. Super Boreal (French Swiss or French?) seems to ring a bell but I can't place it. Robert (RLK) might know something. I assume W. Kaufmann was the retailer.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Yes, I assume Kaufmann is the retailer. I've found a couple more Super Boreal hats on Ricardo and none anywhere else, so they seem to be Swiss French rather than French French.

Felt blend? If you mean the grey/white in amongst the predominant black, that's just the cloud of cat fur that awaited our return. Uncle Wojtek didn't do any hoovering while looking after the cats!:eusa_doh:

 

[Baron Kurtz]

p.s. Whoever's using dropbox for their images, could they please reduce the image size (into the low hundreds of kbs if possible) before posting? They're really slowing down the loading of this thread …

thx, bk.

 

[Chepstow]

Great find Pete! Looks like a great day on the flea market for you!