Hang an Aero Highwayman with Creases

[michaelleung9447]

Hi all,

Been lurking TFL as a visitor for a long time and decided this may be a good topic to make the first post on.

I went to Japan at the new year and picked up an Aero Highwayman at Americaya when staying in Tokyo.

I spent probably 10 seconds after wearing it to decide I’d buy it because I felt like it fit so well, even for someone who usually wants a more tapered waist and less boxy fit (first one is when I just bought it, and the second one is after wearing it for almost 2 weeks):

Now in my excitement and blind euphoria, I overlooked a few small things about the jacket, one of them is the creases from nthe eck to my side chest on both sides (below are what the creases look like now, previously I’d say it’s less pronounced):

I checked the photos from when I first bought it and can confirm that those creases came right out of the “box” (I got the shop assistant in Americaya to get me a brand new one from the warehouse).

Even worse, I came to know that Horween CXL HH is really hard to break in, so I wore the sh*t out of it: I wear it when driving, walking, moving luggage and all activities all the time (almost slept in it too were my wife not threatening to kick me out of bed) for almost 2 weeks when traveling in Japan, and I felt like it increased the severity of the creases, since it stretched and molded to my body:

Now personally I’m still ok with them: these creases strangely resemble how my neck, trap, and shoulder lines look and actually is somewhat flattering to my shoulder line, which added a bit of character on an otherwise flat surface. Still, I’d think that it’d probably be better to keep it from getting worse.

So I referenced some of the existing threads on how to hang the jacket with pool tubes, and DIY myself a thick hanger using a base of a broad hanger with shoulder knobs and a combination of sweatpants and socks to create some chest and trap lines. It seems to work somewhat well and curiously started to resemble the shape of the hangers that Aero is selling:

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What do you guys think of this hanging method, is there any potential drawbacks you could spot, or is it better to simply lay it flat on a surface?

Thanks!

 

[michaelleung9447]

I’m 170 cm and 72 kg with a 40 inches chest btw, and this one is size 38

 

[Edward]

Shoulder creases bother some people. I've never seen the issue, myself. Leather is never going to sit like textiles.

 

[michaelleung9447]

Shoulder creases bother some people. I've never seen the issue, myself. Leather is never going to sit like textiles.

While I tend to agree (hence why I said I'm still ok with them as they are now), I do start to worry about whether the creasing getting worse would affect the intended drape of the leather jacket, since the shoulder and chest dominate on how the jacket sits on the torso.

In fact, I think I also noticed some chest creases being developed along them; they are still not "creases" yet per se, but I can definitely see lines being shaped.

Therefore just wanted to see if there are any other people hanging or storing jackets with such creases and how they are dealing with them at the moment, and gather some feedback on my DIY hanger.

 

[Harris HTM]

: I wear it when driving

This will cause some diagonal creases on the back panel keep in mind.

would affect the intended drape of the leather jacket

Do not worry about it: with fqhh cxl you may forget any drape.

 

[michaelleung9447]

This will cause some diagonal creases on the back panel keep in mind.


Do not worry about it: with fqhh cxl you may forget any drape.

Yes, I already noticed them as well, but fortunately, they are not pronounced if I don't do any reaching forward actions.

That being said, I imagine these diagonal creases might just be unavoidable with a jacket with a back made of one single leather but without action backs, and wearing them when doing day-to-day stuff. So I think I could live with that.

I guess my biggest concern is creases that could mess with the fit of a jacket. I do feel curious if this is ever a problem with FQHH CXL with creases like these, now that you mention it.

 

[Edward]

While I tend to agree (hence why I said I'm still ok with them as they are now), I do start to worry about whether the creasing getting worse would affect the intended drape of the leather jacket, since the shoulder and chest dominate on how the jacket sits on the torso.

In fact, I think I also noticed some chest creases being developed along them; they are still not "creases" yet per se, but I can definitely see lines being shaped.

Therefore just wanted to see if there are any other people hanging or storing jackets with such creases and how they are dealing with them at the moment, and gather some feedback on my DIY hanger.

I've never seen it be anything other than cosmetic; I don't believe you'll need to worry about it affecting the fit.

 

[RDS]

It’s a leather jacket so will develop creases in all sorts of places, however what does need to be avoided is stretching.
That’s why the pool noodled/padded wide hangers are generally preferred, although it’s important to not store a jacket fastened up as this can cause unnatural creasing down the front (see below)

If it is decided to lay a jacket down a little extra care will be needed to ensure it’s laid flat, otherwise unnatural creasing could again be caused.

 

[michaelleung9447]

It’s a leather jacket so will develop creases in all sorts of places, however what does need to be avoided is stretching.
That’s why the pool noodled/padded wide hangers are generally preferred, although it’s important to not store a jacket fastened up as this can cause unnatural creasing down the front (see below)

If it is decided to lay a jacket down a little extra care will be needed to ensure it’s laid flat, otherwise unnatural creasing could again be caused.

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Thanks for the insights, these creases are definitely the ones I want to avoid the most.

I also like the distinction between natural and unnatural creases, I think mine still look natural and actually fit to how my body shapes and moves.

I did notice though that different batches of highwayman on different people with different leather (cowhide vs horsehide and cxl vs Italian etc) has very different creases. I’ve searched across highwayman fitting pics and some of them do have these creases I got but some of them (even vintage and worn for long) don’t even have a hint of them.

I guess with leather jackets, due to such a high variability in stitch work and leather being used (even how it’s being used), it’s just unrealistic to request it to be perfect in every way.

 

[michaelleung9447]

Just stumbled across this legendary thread and read the full 10 pages, attach it here for reference, very informative and great thread for what hangers to use etc, almost covered all of my concerns and questions:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/jacket-hangers.94567/

 

[Bfd70]

If you are wearing the jacket as part of a 20 jacket rotation, and it might be weeks and months before you wear it again pay attention to your hangers. If you have one or two jackets, and I mean this nicely, stop thinking so much it’s just a jacket.

 

[michaelleung9447]

If you are wearing the jacket as part of a 20 jacket rotation, and it might be weeks and months before you wear it again pay attention to your hangers. If you have one or two jackets, and I mean this nicely, stop thinking so much it’s just a jacket.

I understand where you are coming from, it’s mostly that I’m living in Australia, so it’d be months before I get to wear it again, and maybe less than 3 months of a year I could wear it too (aside from putting it on at home and satisfying my “leather needs” ) so getting the best possible way to store it long term without causing harm to it does matter quite a bit to me.

It’s a struggle to be a leather head in Australia, wish I live in a place where I can put on a jacket most of the year.

 

[Bfd70]

I understand where you are coming from, it’s mostly that I’m living in Australia, so it’d be months before I get to wear it again, and maybe less than 3 months of a year I could wear it too (aside from putting it on at home and satisfying my “leather needs” ) so getting the best possible way to store it long term without causing harm to it does matter quite a bit to me.

It’s a struggle to be a leather head in Australia, wish I live in a place where I can put on a jacket most of the year.

Best is to not hang it at all. Lay it flat

 

[AerGuitar]

Thanks for the insights, these creases are definitely the ones I want to avoid the most.

I also like the distinction between natural and unnatural creases, I think mine still look natural and actually fit to how my body shapes and moves.

I did notice though that different batches of highwayman on different people with different leather (cowhide vs horsehide and cxl vs Italian etc) has very different creases. I’ve searched across highwayman fitting pics and some of them do have these creases I got but some of them (even vintage and worn for long) don’t even have a hint of them.

I guess with leather jackets, due to such a high variability in stitch work and leather being used (even how it’s being used), it’s just unrealistic to request it to be perfect in every way.

I believe that the particular creases you are referring to are called “drag lines”. It’s my understanding that why you may see it on some Highwaymans and not on others is because of the wearer’s shoulder shape. Some guys have sloped shoulders, and others have squared shoulders, and everything in between. The particular jacket pattern will remain the same, but sit differently on different bodies. In my experience, the Aero models I’ve owned have a more squared shoulder profile, which works out great for me because my shoulders are pretty square. I have little lady traps, haha. Larger traps create a sloped shoulder, and general posture can also play a role. I don’t mind those diagonal creases on your jacket at all. Great looking jacket!

 

[michaelleung9447]

I believe that the particular creases you are referring to are called “drag lines”. It’s my understanding that why you may see it on some Highwaymans and not on others is because of the wearer’s shoulder shape. Some guys have sloped shoulders, and others have squared shoulders, and everything in between. The particular jacket pattern will remain the same, but sit differently on different bodies. In my experience, the Aero models I’ve owned have a more squared shoulder profile, which works out great for me because my shoulders are pretty square. I have little lady traps, haha. Larger traps create a sloped shoulder, and general posture can also play a role. I don’t mind those diagonal creases on your jacket at all. Great looking jacket!

Thanks man! That explains quite a bit, I unfortunately have quite a big trap proportion wise due to going to the gym quite often and I can even start seeing a bit of angle forming on the shoulder seam along my traps.

Also based on the insights from yours, I adjusted the hanger to put more cloth towards the ends of the hanger to create a leveled slope, and these drag lines almost disappeared when I put my jacket on it. That pretty much proved that you are right.

 

[3.14nche]

If you're worried / bothered about these creases you could try adding shoulder pads

Game changer fix for Aero // \\ pattern issue

I kind of posted this elsewhere but there's a different discussion going on and it got buried. It's too important imo not too highlight because a lot of us have the aero fit issue of too much tension on the neck and creating crease lines that shoot from the neck diagonally towards the armpits...

www.thefedoralounge.com

 

[michaelleung9447]

If you're worried / bothered about these creases you could try adding shoulder pads

http://[URL]https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/game-changer-fix-for-aero-pattern-issue.106538/

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Yeah I stumbled across this as well when reading through TFL’s relevant articles, looks pretty promising.

 

[Bawheid]

I understand where you are coming from, it’s mostly that I’m living in Australia, so it’d be months before I get to wear it again, and maybe less than 3 months of a year I could wear it too (aside from putting it on at home and satisfying my “leather needs” ) so getting the best possible way to store it long term without causing harm to it does matter quite a bit to me.

It’s a struggle to be a leather head in Australia, wish I live in a place where I can put on a jacket most of the year.

It looks fine on you. Don"t overthink.
I also am Resident in Australia.
Perth WA leather jackets are good for 5 months for casual everyday wear.
I ride motorcycles so more like 10/11 months of use.
Denim jackets on those "hot" days.
It was 41C yesterdayfor example !
I have a steerhide Highwayman in my huge fleet, not on the bike as no zipper sleeves but it's a regular in "winter" months.

 

[michaelleung9447]

It looks fine on you. Don"t overthink.
I also am Resident in Australia.
Perth WA leather jackets are good for 5 months for casual everyday wear.
I ride motorcycles so more like 10/11 months of use.
Denim jackets on those "hot" days.
It was 41C yesterdayfor example !
I have a steerhide Highwayman in my huge fleet, not on the bike as no zipper sleeves but it's a regular in "winter" months. View attachment 764284

Thanks!

Sydneysider here, not sure if it’s because I feel hotter than average, I don’t even get to wear “regular” jacket most of the days, a T shirt is all I’m usually good for, but I might actually try to wear jackets more often and see how it fares. Sydney is definitely much cooler than Perth yesterday!

Btw now that you mention it, I actually wish I got to buy the chunky thick and heavy CXL steerhide one than CXL horsehide, I saw the one on DudsByDel on YouTube and it looks so substantial and “meaty”. Hope I can get one one day!