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Mister Freedom x Sugar Cane Bronco Champ ...Fake...???

Pulpropi

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Hi together...
To all the experts out there!

I have a little problem. I bought this jacket from a privat seller a few days ago but am not sure it is an original Bronco Champ jacket from Mister Freedom X Sugar Cane or a fake Version.
Please look my pictures.
I haven't found many details on the Internet review like this. Please can you help me? For example, there is no "Hookless” nickel zipper type front closure but a "Talon" Zipper and on the sleeves also, the pockets and the sleeves are not lined with herringbone twill 100% cotton plaid fabric , the breast pocket zippers also look a little different and not like the "Conmatic” chain type nickel zippers. The leather is very soft and relatively light for horse leather in my opinion. Were there any different versions of this jacket made? I hope this is a real one and not a fake. Thanks for your help and an answer.
Greetings!!!
 

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I've never seen one with patches like that on the back. And the stitching within them looks awfully sloppy. Leather looks cheap, nothing like the hide below. I'm no expert on these but the jacket you posted looks quite flimsy in comparison...
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If returning is an option....that's what I would do.
 

ragtime_joe

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Definitely fake. Its the only MF piece I've ever seen counterfeited, and it seems that there are more of the counterfeit versions floating around than real ones. Look at the pattern of the liners, it's completely different.
 

eyewildshot

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I've never seen one with patches like that on the back. And the stitching within them looks awfully sloppy. Leather looks cheap, nothing like the hide below. I'm no expert on these but the jacket you posted looks quite flimsy in comparison...
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If returning is an option....that's what I would do.
Agreed, I've never seen one with the back leather lettering, never ever! it's even weird to see that. although it looks true to even the brand name tag, the flat, ungrainy texture of leather doesn't feel quite right either. As a Taiwanese that have a business in Mainland China, I would not be too surprised to see a very detailed "reproduction" (they don't call it counterfeit or fake) that at a casual glance looks just like a real mccoy. However, absolutely no offense to my fellow Chinese brothers, I'm not asserting the particular one discussed here was made in China.
 

Pulpropi

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Hi everyone, thank you for your help. I have now received an answer from Mister Freedom. It's a fake. Here are some pictures of the oirinal jacket for comparison. The jacket goes back, but no problem. The seller didn't know any better and acted with good intentions. He takes the jacket back without any problems. Nice weekend to all and greetings!
 

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Canuck Panda

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This thread just saved me... Thank you!

Saw these two on Rakuma and thought I check here first... Same counterfeit, with Talons instead of Hookless on the D pocket. I even searched the Sugarcane model number with nothing showing up in google except these.

All in all that is a lot of trouble to go through to counterfeit a very niche jacket. Anyways, stay away from these two Rakuma listings:

https://item.fril.jp/d853e31ca1f7ab...98*MTY4MjAxNTkzOC4xLjEuMTY4MjAxODg1My45LjAuMA..

https://item.fril.jp/6836b2dacb2023...8*MTY4MjAxNTkzOC4xLjEuMTY4MjAxODg4Ny42MC4wLjA.
 

Pulpropi

New in Town
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This thread just saved me... Thank you!

Saw these two on Rakuma and thought I check here first... Same counterfeit, with Talons instead of Hookless on the D pocket. I even searched the Sugarcane model number with nothing showing up in google except these.

All in all that is a lot of trouble to go through to counterfeit a very niche jacket. Anyways, stay away from these two Rakuma listings:

https://item.fril.jp/d853e31ca1f7ab...98*MTY4MjAxNTkzOC4xLjEuMTY4MjAxODg1My45LjAuMA..

https://item.fril.jp/6836b2dacb2023...8*MTY4MjAxNTkzOC4xLjEuMTY4MjAxODg4Ny42MC4wLjA.
Hi.
Well, but that's not necessarily true. This jacket was produced in different versions. Among other things, also with these zippers. See Grailed. These are both originals and see the new versions directly from Mr. Freedom. But there is always a risk. I think the 2nd ad is very authentic because the hookless zipper is also easy to see. There was no such thing on my fake. The leather also seems capable of breaking in. But that's just a hint. Finger away if you have concerns. Greetings...

https://www.grailed.com/listings/30897133-mister-freedom-mister-freedom-bronco-champ

https://www.grailed.com/listings/33...bronco-champ-horsehide-cafe-racer-jacket-sz38

https://misterfreedom.com/collections/bronco-champ/products/bronco-champ-type-ii-black


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One Drop

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This has grailed (railed) written all over it. I could be wrong but I trust nothing on that site. Far worse than eBay.

Interesting take, completely opposite to my experience. I've only had great experiences with the site and have got some killer deals !
 

Pulpropi

New in Town
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Ich will nicht dumm klingen, aber wie sieht ein "Hookless" aus.
Reißverschluss der guten alten Zeit. Nicht ganz einfach zu bedienen, aber egal... Einfach cool!
 

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