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RMC J100 vs TMC Beck666, first leather jacket
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I have an RMC J-100. I don't have a Beck 666, but I do have both an RMC G1 and a TMC G1 (the latter bought from the lovely and knowledgeable Canuck Panda, currently contributing to this very thread), so I feel comfortable comparing the overall quality of RMC to TMC.
In short, both are excellent. Some of the best of the best. A hard tie in terms of build quality and attention to detail. Subjectively, I do prefer the veg-tan goatskin on the RMC, but the chrome-tanned goatskin on the TMC is arguably more "correct" for the G1. My father's was chrome. Equally subjectively, I think there's just something special about the TMC. Believe me, both are special jackets. But while I get what makes the RMC special, there is an additional "it factor" for the TMC beyond just the things it does right. TMC is like the Ringo Starr of jacket makers.
Personally, if it were me, I'd go with the 666 Beck just because while I love my J-100, I do often wish it had places to put car fob, phone, wallet. I believe you can get a version of the 666 with hand warmers and an inside pocket. The J-100 is ********* and pure. It's beautiful and sleek, but can be somewhat impractical depending on the day's mission.
A note on sizing... obviously I can't comment on the 666, but for the J-100, I went with the 40, and I'm roughly your size... 5 pounds lighter and an inch taller. I have broad shoulders and a 40" chest. I actually ordered both the 40 and the 42 from a vendor, with the understanding I would return the one that didn't fit. the 42 was okay in the shoulders and roomy in the chest without being too huge. Kind of like a jacket you can wear something thick under. Not a perfect example of that classic razored cafe racer fit, but not terrible. Close enough. However the fit fell apart in the waist... it was just too wide and loose. The 40 hit the mark perfectly. Shoulders were fine, enough room in the chest for a thin layer, and the waist wasn't too large. Traditionally, cafe racers are cut either tapered or straight back, like a race shirt. Both are classic and historically important cuts. The J-100 is definitely the latter, so getting a fit where that bottom portion hangs close to the body and doesn't look like a toddler wearing his father's shirt is paramount.
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I just realized I HAVE seen a TMC 666 or at least a model very similar to it. It was a used one in this retro shop near me, but it was one of those historical prop jackets TMC does, in this case done up like Henry Fonda's jacket in Easy Rider. It was a beautiful jacket, easily the equal of my J-100. I can't comment too much on fit as it was a 44, but just based on trying it on, I guess I'd probably run a 42 in it. But I'm not sure if the pattern was a 666, or another cafe racer TMC does, so take all of this with a grain of salt: This one had no hand-warmers but an inside chest pocket, I believe. Here's a pic:
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In short, both are excellent. Some of the best of the best. A hard tie in terms of build quality and attention to detail. Subjectively, I do prefer the veg-tan goatskin on the RMC, but the chrome-tanned goatskin on the TMC is arguably more "correct" for the G1. My father's was chrome. Equally subjectively, I think there's just something special about the TMC. Believe me, both are special jackets. But while I get what makes the RMC special, there is an additional "it factor" for the TMC beyond just the things it does right. TMC is like the Ringo Starr of jacket makers.
Personally, if it were me, I'd go with the 666 Beck just because while I love my J-100, I do often wish it had places to put car fob, phone, wallet. I believe you can get a version of the 666 with hand warmers and an inside pocket. The J-100 is ********* and pure. It's beautiful and sleek, but can be somewhat impractical depending on the day's mission.
A note on sizing... obviously I can't comment on the 666, but for the J-100, I went with the 40, and I'm roughly your size... 5 pounds lighter and an inch taller. I have broad shoulders and a 40" chest. I actually ordered both the 40 and the 42 from a vendor, with the understanding I would return the one that didn't fit. the 42 was okay in the shoulders and roomy in the chest without being too huge. Kind of like a jacket you can wear something thick under. Not a perfect example of that classic razored cafe racer fit, but not terrible. Close enough. However the fit fell apart in the waist... it was just too wide and loose. The 40 hit the mark perfectly. Shoulders were fine, enough room in the chest for a thin layer, and the waist wasn't too large. Traditionally, cafe racers are cut either tapered or straight back, like a race shirt. Both are classic and historically important cuts. The J-100 is definitely the latter, so getting a fit where that bottom portion hangs close to the body and doesn't look like a toddler wearing his father's shirt is paramount.
EDIT:
I just realized I HAVE seen a TMC 666 or at least a model very similar to it. It was a used one in this retro shop near me, but it was one of those historical prop jackets TMC does, in this case done up like Henry Fonda's jacket in Easy Rider. It was a beautiful jacket, easily the equal of my J-100. I can't comment too much on fit as it was a 44, but just based on trying it on, I guess I'd probably run a 42 in it. But I'm not sure if the pattern was a 666, or another cafe racer TMC does, so take all of this with a grain of salt: This one had no hand-warmers but an inside chest pocket, I believe. Here's a pic:
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Looking good. Congratulations on your acquisition!
Bender
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Sickus Maximus... shopper of the storefronts of Tokyo, buyer of things unbuyable stateside, loyal servant to neat stitchwork... owner of an empty wallet, husband to a patient wife, and I will sneak this past Customs by wearing it, in this life or the next.
Looks awesome man, size 44 works great on you! I cant wait for mine to arrive. It just left Hongkong and is on its way to the US
@Pkshfo74036 May I ask a favor, please? When you get a chance, could you measure the sleeve length of the beck666 you just got? I'm very curious about the sleeve length. This one looks perfect on you. I'm 178cm, slightly shorter than you, hopefully the sleeve length wont be too long for me
What's your chest and shoulder measurements if you dont mind
What's your chest and shoulder measurements if you dont mind
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Awesome, this is great, thank you so much. I’m pretty much identical, 50cm in shoulders, 105cm in chest. Now I’m really looking forward to seeing this in person!
Very nice, such a nice fit man!
Mine is in Hong Kong now, should get to me on Wednesday/Thursday.
Canuck Panda
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Nailed it!
Hi, would you mind showing pictures of your J100 in shape? I want to buy this model but I'm not sure between size 40 or 42.
My measurements are:
5.9" 180 lbs 42" chest.
A while ago I bought the old model BJ9110, and it has become completely restrictive, since I train regularly and I'm increasing my size.
Thanks, best regards!
From my experience with Japanese brands, they tend to run a bit small if you have an athletic build. I had the same worry when ordering, but I'm glad I went with the bigger one. So, I'd recommend 42 just in case.
In the new model bj19110, it seems that they have increased the size somewhat, but I am still concerned that it may be too tight, I think that a little more room is better than a little restrictive, since that will affect the comfort and therefore the use of the jacket, thanks for your input.
Thanks, could you show a photo in shape with the j100?
Hoanglong
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when i zip it up it is a little tight in the chest area when i put my hands in my pants pockets
Im 1m73 and 78kg.
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That looks great on you! Congratulations, is this the newer model or the older one? They changed the pattern on the new one and it's a bit roomier.
Hoanglong
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I'm not sure but I think it's the new model. It has a McCoy zipper.
If it says McCoy on the main zipper, it's the new model, the old one says talon. Could you tell me the measurements, especially the back length from the collar to the hem? Thank you and sorry for asking you so many things, I've been interested in this jacket for years haha, thanks!
Hoanglong
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I have picture of a member here, its have mccoy zipper but code is BJ9110, new model now is BJ19110.
My jacket:
- Pit to pit: 55cm
- Sleeve : 63cm
- Shoulder: 48cm
- Back: 65cm
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