Shinki info?

[DiamondDave]

HPA,

Yes for shoe and saddle leather that is absolutely correct, however for garment leather, which is what I was talking about, chrome tanning has been far more prevalent for almost 100 years.

 

[Mrbuco700]

this is wat it looks like after couple years use of shinki horsehide (from old real mccoy pic).. Japanese call it the "tea color effect"

 

[Mrbuco700]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5337e0pqdath0j/vintage.jpeg sorry dont have the previlege to post pic

 

[Sloan1874]

Nice one, thanks. I like the ruddy tones and wrinkling. Very distinctive.

 

[majormajor]

Nice one, thanks. I like the ruddy tones and wrinkling. Very distinctive.

Looks very nice, but in relative terms, is it that much better than most other HH?

My last Eastman Warhorse hide looked very similar after a similar length of time.

I think perhaps, like many things that develop "legendary" status, the reality is a little more mundane

 

[ButteMT61]

Mundane would be looking for nits to pick. Jeez H guys, get what you like and enjoy it. How would one determine "best"? We certainly can rely upon a core group of tanners to put out consistently good hides. That's good enough for me. The rest is personal preference. Now, more coffee so I can smile.

 

[Sloan1874]

I know what you mean. I may have to add more jackets made from different hides to my collection, just for comparison and to pursue this line of investigation scientifically, of course...

 

[majormajor]

I'm afraid I don't subscribe to the "if it's Japanese, it must be the best" mantra. It's very good, yes. But so is other stuff.

If you talk denim, these days, to a "denimhead", they will glibly tell you that their denim HAS to be Japanese. No one else could possibly make it like they do....

And those same folks are now beginning to talk in the same terms about Japanese HH. No Shinki - not buying.

Which is remarkably narrowminded (IMHO).

Here's a pic of my last ELC Monarch in Warhorse hide. This was taken just before I sold it - I had the jacket from new - it was around 18months old.

The hide is, I understand, Italian - and looks as good as any Shinki.

The shrunken look is down to HWT - not hocus-pocus in the tannery

 

[Ishmael]

I smell a straw man.

 

[ButteMT61]

OK, some citations on the "if it's not Shinki, I'm not buying".
Just because people are talking it up - it's new to many of us - doesn't mean anyone is snubbing other makers. I see no evidence of that here or elsewhere. I have but one, and I love it, but I also love other jackets I own...seems to be a made up conspiracy...

 

[majormajor]

OK, some citations on the "if it's not Shinki, I'm not buying".
Just because people are talking it up - it's new to many of us - doesn't mean anyone is snubbing other makers. I see no evidence of that here or elsewhere. I have but one, and I love it, but I also love other jackets I own...seems to be a made up conspiracy...

Hi Butte

I'll send you the link - "if Aero made it in Shinki, I'd buy it" - a real quote

 

[ButteMT61]

Hi ButteI'll send you the link - "if Aero made it in Shinki, I'd buy it" - a real quote

OK, that's a preference in a hide. I've heard the same for Horween and others over the years. What about all the LOCHCARRON TARTAN? Surely people can have a preference for what they like? None of the jackets I've owned are anything like the Shinki. None of my jackets are like the FQHH Aero either. I'd buy certain moto jackets if I could get them in the same hide. Your'e exaggerating... Boo.

 

[majormajor]

OK, that's a preference in a hide. I've heard the same for Horween and others over the years. What about all the LOCHCARRON TARTAN? Surely people can have a preference for what they like? None of the jackets I've owned are anything like the Shinki. None of my jackets are like the FQHH Aero either. I'd buy certain moto jackets if I could get them in the same hide. Your'e exaggerating... Boo.

PMed you.........

 

[bretron]

I think Aero would sell more if they offered Shinki

As much as I like the heavy as lead FQHH they source from Horween, nothing I've handled to date seems to compare in terms of grain, density and overall character to Shinki. I know for sure I'd choose it if offered. That said, I am really looking forward to my battle armor Dustbowl :lol:

 

[majormajor]

I think Aero would sell more if they offered Shinki

As much as I like the heavy as lead FQHH they source from Horween, nothing I've handled to date seems to compare in terms of grain, density and overall character to Shinki. I know for sure I'd choose it if offered. That said, I am really looking forward to my battle armor Dustbowl :lol:

Hi Breton

The thing about almost all the new range of jackets from Aero - including the Dustbowl - is that they are NOT made from the really heavy FQHH that is a feature of the previous range.

So unless you have specifically asked for "battle armour", you should get mid weight hide. And if you shrink it (trade secret: that's what Shinki do....) it will look pretty much the same as Shinki does in two years......

 

[bretron]

C'mon, tell me you wouldn't want your Aeromarine in this hide

 

[majormajor]

C'mon, tell me you wouldn't want your Aeromarine in this hide

I have one in very similar hide

That is simply shrunken HH. It's not rocket science.......[huh]

 

[bretron]

That's a swatch I've been beating up for over a year now.

 

[ButteMT61]

Then I'll only buy Shrinki. lol

 

[majormajor]

That's a swatch I've been beating up for over a year now.

We could round in circles here, my friend - but here is a poor pic (it is the middle of the night here!) of the back of my Aeromarine. This is just three weeks from brand new.

Believe me, in a year, it will look better than that hide you have there

If you have ordered your Dustbowl in the mid-weight FQHH, I think you may be pleasantly surprised