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hahaha! it took me a couple of seconds to get it!
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Those are great additions. You're right, my three criteria are too limited to do justice to the qualities of the makers you mentioned.
I can only go on my experience with their jackets and jackets I own from other makers. In that respect they look and feel as good as any. However there are others better qualified than me to comment on quality etc.In what regard are they on par with which top makers? I thought SB was midtier.
I guess their patterns are on par with Aero's. (sorry, too easy)
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That would be enough for me. If I have to wait that long to get a reply to an enquiry, the last thing I want to do is send that company a lot of money up front and hope for the best.
Also the recent experience of @JustinW turned me off of them pretty hard. After selling him a jacket that would have fit Sponge Bob perfectly, they tried to stick him with it and only changed their mind when it became clear that this was earning them bad publicity here on the lounge.
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I have had two SB British Cafe Racer's, one in Shinki and one in Clayton.
Both were excellent. The construction and leather were both solid. The fit was to my liking which really speaks to body type for the given style.
Both were excellent. The construction and leather were both solid. The fit was to my liking which really speaks to body type for the given style.
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Thanks for all the reply’s. I apologise if I’ve opened up a can of worms here.
Harris HTM
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You don't have to apologise to anyone. It's your money to decide where to spend it, you asked for information and we gladly provided the facts, both positive and negative.
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Are you eating your gun because you would never buy/wear a SB, or because we are discussing it again? Lol.
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That's what I was thinking Super....
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I had a jacket from them and returned it immediately. Not the best experience. I'd go with Field Leathers or Thedi over them in a heartbeat in that same price range. I also bought it before I knew of their history. If I had, I never would have even bought it. It also just didn't work out for me so I have a low opinion of them from every angle.
Field Leathers and Thedi are more expensive
Edit: I just checked their website, their J100 is £555 in any leather (no upcharge). I don't think any of the makers here offers something in this range
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OK fair enough. I sit corrected. In that case, I would still go Vanson over them or just save up for those other makers I mentioned, but I can understand why others would not because SB does offer more leather choices than Vanson as well as more variety in designs if I'm not mistaken.
Vanson is supposed to offer patterns as good as Langlitz as far as I understand, and this would be a big plus to consider. Lose in leather, win in pattern. There are always trade offs
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Absolutely and at that price, I would be happy to lose in the leather and win in the pattern. Actually, I would probably go that route at any price point.
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With FL, you are getting a fully customizable pattern. Want bells and whistles? Greg will add them! He is hand making an original just for you. Are you weirdly dysmorphic? Greg will tailor ever aspect of the jacket to fit your body. He will also spend hours in discussion with you, checking measurements and asking questions until he is happy that the fit will be right and the design is what you are looking for. Because he is passionate about his craft and he cares about giving you what you want. Then, of course, there is the Shinki hide as standard. And then there is the quality of workmanship he offers. All this for the flat thousand pound charge.
SB have some nice patterns. They offer a lot of really good leathers, many adding to the base price. They will alter the sleeve, chest, waist and body length for you. More than that and you are looking at a 'bespoke' upcharge. I think there have already been enough people documenting their experiences with quality and customer service (some positive, some negative).
SB have some nice patterns. They offer a lot of really good leathers, many adding to the base price. They will alter the sleeve, chest, waist and body length for you. More than that and you are looking at a 'bespoke' upcharge. I think there have already been enough people documenting their experiences with quality and customer service (some positive, some negative).
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I have owned five stock size 46 jackets from Vanson and they all fit as well or better than my two custom Langlitz. Also, everyone I am have spoken to at Vanson has been pleasant and eager to help me. If they offered a wider selection of leathers they would be hard to beat in my opinion.
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Bought a Lewis/Simmons Bilt "Redskin" D1 years ago BEFORE all the courtroom shenanigans. It's held up well, and fits me super since I've lost a ton of weight. Strictly speaking of their jackets I've no actual complaints.
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