Well... yes, you're right. But I think they pretty much sold out immediately, then a few did recant. But I think they're all gone, as of a few days ago. What I meant to say was that the market for those specialty jackets can be mostly satisfied at one forum, which Ken decided would be VLJ. That's not a slight against TFL, but simply that Ken seems to post more at VLJ. I feel sure if Ken needed to find more buyers, he would advertise in other areas.