Im trying to decide between these two for my custom motorcycle jacket. any reasons why one is better than the other? alot of pro racers wear bates suits and they say theyll build whatever i want however i want. the bates will cost less than the langlitz. ive read about how good langlitz customer service is and ive talked to both on the phone. they both seem very nice. bates does a fitting via skype while langlitz goes by mailed in measurements. im mostly wanting feedback on quality, leather thickness, tangible things like that. ive already got a vanson hardcore so im not in a hurry and its winter time in western pa. thanks in advance.