A question for all...

[BellyTank]

As I said, a question for as many as are interested to answer-
..In a world where you could buy just exactly what you wanted without the need to accept polyester, low waists, laminated breathable layers, ugly collars, etc.,
what would your ideal Golden Era adventure clothing wardrobe consist of???
Taking into consideration the overlap on this forum of Jones-ing and Vintage-ing,
what would your necessities be for shirts, trou and outerwear and headwear, not forgetting that a true adventurer could be headed to deepest Central America, North Africa, navigating the Matterhorn or Norway's Fjords or delving deep inland by biplane or motorcycle-

- tropical- desert- temperate- alpine and arctic clothing-

Fabrics?- we're doing '30s-'40s. Wools, tweeds, whipcord, corduroy gabardine, poplins, drills, leather- sturdy stuff up to the rigours of it all...

Well, what do you say- what do you need to take along???
Go on- go crazy... just imagine I'm paying(and imagine that I have money...).

I thank you for humouring me-

-BellyTank.

 

[Fuente]

Some additional fabrics to consider:

Amongst the tweeds, include the Donegal and the Thornproof

The Donegal is reknown for its 'fliers' small coloured specks spun in with the yarn

The true 'thornproof' is a highly twisted woolen yarn that has a very tightly constructed weave. Particularly usefull as a riding jacket when riding through and jumping the hedges.

Amongst the raised twills add the Cavalry and the Covert to the Whipcord for 30's and 40's wear.

To the cottons, besides poplin, drill etc add the cotton canvas or duck again tighly woven for rugged wear. Any of the cottons may be lined with a brushed cotton for colder climes.

Rich

 

[BellyTank]

Yep!

Yep, I know my fabrics- been in the industry for most of my working life.
I was being brief there- good additions thanks.

Moleskin, denim, chambray...

But garments, styles, beating the weather- snow, wind, searing heat...

Thanks,
BT.

 

[Mycroft]

Big question deseves a big answer my friend...

Under Garments:

Cotton T's and boxers
Long Johns-for expidtions

City:
Bogart Style Trench Coat
1 good Tux set
1 set of white tie stuff
2 grey wool suits
2 dark blue wool suits
2 heavy wool suits
2 dark green wool suits
Assorted Oxford Shirts (blue and white)

Country/Vaction:
2 wool country suits


Expedtion Wear:
One leather bomber jacket (Indy style)(A-2)
Chinos
white oxford shirts, not facny (botton) down)

Hats:
1 black fedora-Borgart Style
1 brown fedora-Borgart Style
1 panama hat

Coats:
Trench coat (see above)
Parka (tradional with fur)

Belts:
1 dress brown belt
1 wide brown belt
1 dress black belt

Shoes:
Brown and Black oxfords
2 pairs of boat shoes
2 pairs of brown parachutists boots (french)
1 pair of shoes for my Tux and Tails

Assesories:
1 midum size pen knife
1 gun metal cigarrtete case
1 gun metal trech lighter
1 gold pocket watch
1 silver pocket watch
1 G.I. standerd issue wrist watch
1 calf leather bifold wallet (black)
1 calf leather bi-fold square wallet (black)
Assorted silk Ties (striped mostly)
Black Suspenders for Tux and Tales
Cuberbune for tux (black and silk)
asorted gold and silver cuff links
1 good sea captins pen
black calf leather joter and journal
hankerchifs (cotpon and silk)

Mics:
1 Colt .45
1 black sholder holster for the .45 and its magazines
1 U.S. Army leather pistol belt for .45
Bionoculers
U.S. Army surplus gas mask bag
1 swiss army knife
1 U.S. Airborne "swichblade"
1 gun metal flask
1 boot knife
1 set of lock picks
1 penlight
asoreted maps
Aviator sunglasses

 

[BellyTank]

20 sea chests, 2 Camels, 1 donkey and 12 porters required...

Man oh man that's a lot of gear- I was really talking action gear, not evening wear- but that's quite enlightening actually.
But if it was for pure adventuring, out in the dust, sand, snow mountains-
-what would you be wearing?
That's what I'm getting at- not what you'd have back at the hotel(s)...

Travel light- prepared to fight!

BTank.

 

[Mycroft]

OK...see the section on expadtion, hats, and Mics.

 

[BellyTank]

Come on people, help me out here...

This isn't just a time killer, I have my reasons for asking-

OK, put it this way- if you were an international adventurer in the 1930s/40s-
what would your apparel choices be in the categories listed below?
What you would ideally want, not what's currently commercially available-
Use your imagination- think The English Patient- I. Jones, 7 Years in Tibet, The African Queen....that's just for starters.

Desert/tropic

Trousers?
Shirt?
Jacket?
Hat?
Other?

Temperate/Alpine
Trousers?
Shirt?
Jacket?
Hat?
Other?

Thanks,
BT.

 

[BellyTank]

Any more responses? Come on guys and girls!

Are there any more peolple who want to give me some more useful input?
See the last message for criteria...
Thanks.
BT.

 

[Mycroft]

I keep on thinking of some and I will get back to you asap. Or is my list ok?

 

[The Wolf]

dressing for the Desert

For the desert/tropic, I say you read up on an actual 1930's adventurer of the time: Frank Buck. His book "Bring 'Em Back Alive" should help.
A pith helmet and khaki shirt with epaulets are always the right look.
I prefer dressing for dessert. Charlotte Rousse, anyone?

The Wolf

 

[Mycroft]

An idea I just thought of for desert wear would be a scarf similat to the ones worne by Ancant Roman soldiers and generals, here is a pick of one wearing one: http://www.geocities.jp/roundtable12knights/maturoma2.jpg

 

[Matt Deckard]

Summer

Flat front khakis
leather belt
safari shirt
safari jacket belted
pith helmet and fedora
ankle boots or calf height boots

 

[Mycroft]

What are the benifits of a pith helemt over a panama hat or a fedora and vis versa?

 

[Mycroft]

A few good white hankerchiefs would be good for a million different uses. My friend says a gentle always has two things:a pocket knife and a hankerchief. Good guidelines wherever you are. I also recomend for all climates a bomber jacket with a removalble liner or liners, lines of diffent weights too, depending on the weaher.

 

[Mycroft]

Mountain
-Bomber Jacket with midium to heavy liner
-a wool fedora with a whatever you call them that keep them on your head
-heavy chinos
-heavy leather belt same color as jacket
-heavy leather ankle books same color as jacket
-roman scarf thing
-large gas mask bag/map case
-wool socks
-assesories as seen in my BIG LIST above
-early aviators like in the Aviator movie


Desert
-safari jacket
-linin suit
-safari shirt
-light chinos
-ankle boots
-light socks
roman scarf thing
-large gas mask bag/map case
-assesories as seen in my BIG LIST above
-early aviators like in the Aviator movie
-panama hat or light fedora
-light linin oxford shits and maybe a twe or two
-early aviators like in the Aviator movie


General Gear
-1 midum size pen knife
-1 gun metal cigarrtete case
-1 gun metal trech lighter
-1 G.I. standerd issue wrist watch
1 calf leather bifold wallet (black)
-1 good sea captins pen
-black calf leather joter and journal
-hankerchifs (cotpon and silk)
-1 Colt .45
-1 black sholder holster for the .45 and its magazines
-1 U.S. Army leather pistol belt for .45
-Bionoculers
-U.S. Army surplus gas mask bag
-1 swiss army knife
-1 U.S. Airborne "swichblade"
-1 gun metal flask
-1 boot knife
-1 set of lock picks
-1 penlight
-asoreted maps
-a good, solid canteen
-windproof matches and case

 

[BellyTank]

Any more takers?

Hmmm... it's been a while now and there are many new folks here...

Please read the first post and add your comments as you see fit.

The stuff I'm talking about is what you'd actually PAY for, so priorities and reality-

B
T

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Hmmm, not sure about the tropical/desert category. I have no experience of that, but i'll have a think. I have some experience of the alpine/temperate, though. Here goes:

Temperate/Alpine

Trousers? 1 pair each Donegal and Harris tweed plus fours; 1 pair long trousers in each fabric

Shirt? Heavy cotton shirts w/ four large pockets.

Jacket? Donegal or Harris tweed un-belted Norfolk jacket, custom built w/ four front buttoned large map pockets

Hat? Flat cap (8 panel newsboy) w/ fur-lined ear flaps for when it gets cold atop the Matterhorn

Other? Heavy scarf a must, hiking boots, long heavy woolen socks, soft woolen underwear, large leather backpack, water bottle, hip flask filled w/ whiskey, brandy or rum, rope & all necessary climbing gear, gloves, compass, large knife, small knife, notebook & pencil/pen, maps, sunglasses

There will surely be stuff i've missed but for travelling light, i think i've got most of it. All this list would fit inside the backpack, or strapped to the side of the backpack (ropes, ice axe etc.). Weight should be no more then 15-20 kilos.

 

[BellyTank]

Well done Baron, old Bean.
Just the ticket.

Now that's what I'm talking about- the Togs not the trappings- the attire, not so much the spare tyre.

A friend in Tweed is a friend indeed!

Thanks,

B
T:cheers1:

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Also, flat caps should be in the same fabric as the trousers/jackets.

And a pipe and plenty of tobacco.

bk

 

[BellyTank]

...and a Hipflask of a nice Islay...:cheers1:

B
T