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Just amazing!A hatbox that came with an 1860's top hat sold in Buffalo NY.
Just amazing!A hatbox that came with an 1860's top hat sold in Buffalo NY.
We are all familiar with that novel triangle-shaped Stetson Three-Way box. But this is the first time I've seen a Stetson box with "Three-Way" on it that looked like this....
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I can play. Stephen L. Stetson proudly proclaiming "not connected in any way" in the logo on multiple locations on this box. A little rough, but it does tell the story!
An now, a question...
The octagon Dobbs boxes are all over the place. What era is this oval Dobbs? How far back did the Coach Logo appear?
An now, a question...
The octagon Dobbs boxes are all over the place. What era is this oval Dobbs? How far back did the Coach Logo appear?
The coach logo arrived I believe in the 1940s
Here are a few of mine
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I think I have around 80 or so boxes .. I'd have do go in and count ... but the last I check I was around thereGetting the hat bug was one thing. Getting the hat box bug complicated things. Sure glad I bought that big house 25 years ago.
How many boxes do you own? Just counting the vintage ones, that is, such as Stetson, Knox, Cavanagh, etc.
Based on the available evidence, the coach boxes first appeared sometime between September 1932 and January 1937. In September 1932, Dobbs & Co. opened a new store at 711 Fifth Avenue, and to mark they occasion they acquired a coach and horses to use for hat deliveries. I've no idea how long the practice continued, but the coach became associated enough with Dobbs that they started putting them on their boxes. The coach was used in ads as early as 1932. This ad from 1937 shows the coach on the box, although the box depicted is a gift certificate box. Still, it's a reflection of their practices. Also, since they were no longer on the stretch of Fifth Avenue that the original boxes depicted, it made sense to give them a makeover. As a debossment on hat sweatbands, however, the coach was not used until the late-1940s.An now, a question...
The octagon Dobbs boxes are all over the place. What era is this oval Dobbs? How far back did the Coach Logo appear?
I think I have around 80 or so boxes .. I'd have do go in and count ... but the last I check I was around there
none of my vintage hats are unboxed and I have around 80 to 85 vintage .... so ...
Thanks for this, I am using this box to store my Dobbs straw boater, probably a good fit for the era of the hat.Based on the available evidence, the coach boxes first appeared sometime between September 1932 and January 1937. In September 1932, Dobbs & Co. opened a new store at 711 Fifth Avenue, and to mark they occasion they acquired a coach and horses to use for hat deliveries. I've no idea how long the practice continued, but the coach became associated enough with Dobbs that they started putting them on their boxes. The coach was used in ads as early as 1932. This ad from 1937 shows the coach on the box, although the box depicted is a gift certificate box. Still, it's a reflection of their practices. Also, since they were no longer on the stretch of Fifth Avenue that the original boxes depicted, it made sense to give them a makeover. As a debossment on hat sweatbands, however, the coach was not used until the late-1940s.
The octagonal boxes show up around 1952. These seem to be far more prevalent, but if you look at the majority of HCA-made Dobbs hats on eBay, They are also 1952-1972, so no surprise there. These are the survivors, that's all.
Brad
~The Hatted Professor
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awesome Brad ... thank youBased on the available evidence, the coach boxes first appeared sometime between September 1932 and January 1937. In September 1932, Dobbs & Co. opened a new store at 711 Fifth Avenue, and to mark they occasion they acquired a coach and horses to use for hat deliveries. I've no idea how long the practice continued, but the coach became associated enough with Dobbs that they started putting them on their boxes. The coach was used in ads as early as 1932. This ad from 1937 shows the coach on the box, although the box depicted is a gift certificate box. Still, it's a reflection of their practices. Also, since they were no longer on the stretch of Fifth Avenue that the original boxes depicted, it made sense to give them a makeover. As a debossment on hat sweatbands, however, the coach was not used until the late-1940s.
The octagonal boxes show up around 1952. These seem to be far more prevalent, but if you look at the majority of HCA-made Dobbs hats on eBay, They are also 1952-1972, so no surprise there. These are the survivors, that's all.
Brad
~The Hatted Professor
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awesome Brad ... thank you
you are an absolute treasure to this forum
Based on the available evidence, the coach boxes first appeared sometime between September 1932 and January 1937. In September 1932, Dobbs & Co. opened a new store at 711 Fifth Avenue, and to mark they occasion they acquired a coach and horses to use for hat deliveries. I've no idea how long the practice continued, but the coach became associated enough with Dobbs that they started putting them on their boxes. The coach was used in ads as early as 1932. This ad from 1937 shows the coach on the box, although the box depicted is a gift certificate box. Still, it's a reflection of their practices. Also, since they were no longer on the stretch of Fifth Avenue that the original boxes depicted, it made sense to give them a makeover. As a debossment on hat sweatbands, however, the coach was not used until the late-1940s.
The octagonal boxes show up around 1952. These seem to be far more prevalent, but if you look at the majority of HCA-made Dobbs hats on eBay, They are also 1952-1972, so no surprise there. These are the survivors, that's all.
Brad
~The Hatted Professor
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