Can you shape a Deerskin collar with the HWT?

[handymike]

As the title asks.....
I do a lot of HWT shaping with my Horsehide jackets, and learned NOT to use hot water on Goatskin...
What about Deerskin?
Does anyone have experience?
Thanks.

 

[ProteinNerd]

I thought you could use HWT on goat? Plus I've always heard you shouldn't use it on vegetable tanned horse.

Sorry I'm no help on deerskin


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[ButteMT61]

I would doubt it would have much impact. And it might end up stained even with just water.
It's way to soft and pliable.
I've got deer and elk items and it would not be worth trying, IMHO.

 

[Monitor]

Yeah, what happens to the goat?

 

[willyto]

Yeah, what happens to the goat?

Extreme things can happen like shrinking or getting so dry and crispy that it can rip.

Totally NOT recommended, specially a whole jacket.

 

[handymike]

Willyto is right. HWT can dry out goat and make it brittle. HD told me awhile back that on goat you CAN use cold water, and I did shape my goatskin collar successfully that wat (CWT). Deer is new to me which is why I ask.

 

[El Marro]

I had great results shrinking a new goatskin jacket with HWT but I understand that this may have been beginners luck...
I would be very hesitant to try any kind of water treatment on a deerskin jacket because the leather is so soft and supple.

 

[Americanaaa Mark]

I would take a spray bottle and use cold water. I'm sure a little cold water making it slightly damp will do the job. Just as wet as it would be if you were in a light rainstorm. I would do the collar only too, not the body.

Deer is so soft for me. I own a deer skin western shirt and I would not submerge it in warm or hot water ever. I don't use hot water in general for leather, always luke warm or cold.

 

[navetsea]

I can't help with deer, but I rolled the edges of my goatskin cuff with cold water and hair drier-ed it until semi dry, did the same thing on sheepskin too, they both hold the shape even after re conditioning with cream

 

[handymike]

Did you use Hot hair dryer or cool air?

 

[Seb Lucas]

Willyto is right. HWT can dry out goat and make it brittle. HD told me awhile back that on goat you CAN use cold water, and I did shape my goatskin collar successfully that wat (CWT). Deer is new to me which is why I ask.

I don't know - I have washed 3 goat jackets in warm (not hot) water with detergent in the washing machine. Really had no effect on them and therefore probably wasn't worth doing. I was able to re-shape a collar. My understanding of goatskin is it is the most capable of dealing with being washed.

 

[navetsea]

I used hot hair dryer, held it on a spot and slowly moved it once I felt the spot was holding its shape, so technically the water there became hot, I stopped before the leather completely dry, and let it air dry. and after few days I put leather cream on, and it is fine, I can un roll the leather and it springs back into a roll, no cracks.

 

[nick123]

Doesn't it come down to the tanning? Anyone remember the Bill Kelso post where the strips of veg vs chrome tanned goat were dipped into the hot water? IIRC correctly the particular vegetable tanned strip in the experiment shriveled up. I doubt a particular leather type will have problems with HWT. Probably more related to its particular tanning method.

 

[Cooperson]

I would doubt it would have much impact. And it might end up stained even with just water.
It's way to soft and pliable.
I've got deer and elk items and it would not be worth trying, IMHO.

Agreed, tried it on my Kudu Pioneer, which is similar, held it's shape for a short while but soon relaxed - just too soft and pliable.