ANJ-4 overkill for UK weather?

[bn1966]

Traded my ELC Irvin type in (too hot) and purchased a D-1 from them …. Found the D-1 much more practical for South Western UK …. but I run hot. If I had a spare £1500 I’d pick up the fly weight ELC RAF shearling

 

[HBK2025]

Traded my ELC Irvin type in (too hot) and purchased a D-1 from them …. Found the D-1 much more practical for South Western UK …. but I run hot. If I had a spare £1500 I’d pick up the fly weight ELC RAF shearling

Thanks. Will take a look. Definitely seems D1 or B6 works for most in the UK

 

[Peter Mackin]

Thanks. Will take a look. Definitely seems D1 or B6 works for most in the UK

I'm sure if you wait long enough, someone here will offer the best anj4 ever,sheepskin never to be seen again ,till the next one
Imo,a D1 or B6 is the way to go,but the option of a lightweight Anj4 from aero would be my choice due to no fleece at cuffs or waist.

 

[HBK2025]

I'm sure if you wait long enough, someone here will offer the best anj4 ever,sheepskin never to be seen again ,till the next one
Imo,a D1 or B6 is the way to go,but the option of a lightweight Anj4 from aero would be my choice due to no fleece at cuffs or waist.

It's the waist that bothers me. I wear selvedge denim. In theory it's a lot like a decent jacket. Good material, takes a bit to break in and moulds to your body. In reality the indigo dye makes everything blue. So a fleece waist would definitely become a victim.

I think my trip to ironheart will be a trying on excercise now as we are coming out of the bad weather. Then I will just be patient as you suggest. This forum has been so helpful. Thank you for all your advice

 

[bn1966]

Thanks. Will take a look. Definitely seems D1 or B6 works for most in the UK

D-1 design allows for light layering given its design, might be worth giving ELC a ring, I was dead keen on a B-3 & visited their Devon show room. Left having ordered a second A-2 (living in an A-2 at the time), think they mentioned a lighter Anj contract that might have worked for me.

 

[bn1966]

https://www.eastmanleather.com/orig...epsie-leather-coat-co-contract-44-5125ap.html

 

[Peter Mackin]

https://www.eastmanleather.com/orig...epsie-leather-coat-co-contract-44-5125ap.html

Think the Aero lightweight idea would be my choice,,miles better fleece with no broken grain, plus £1799 for the Eastman ,no thanks

 

[Edward]

Think the Aero lightweight idea would be my choice,,miles better fleece with no broken grain, plus £1799 for the Eastman ,no thanks

I don't know who is buying Eastman these days. They make a nice jacket, certainly, but since they repositioned themselves in the market some years ago with prices in line with the very most expensive of the Japanese stuff, they cut me out certainly.

 

[HBK2025]

I don't know who is buying Eastman these days. They make a nice jacket, certainly, but since they repositioned themselves in the market some years ago with prices in line with the very most expensive of the Japanese stuff, they cut me out certainly.

Yeah, that's more than my mortgage payment. Not sure the boss will allow it. She doesn't know the cost of the IH one.

 

[bn1966]

I don't know who is buying Eastman these days. They make a nice jacket, certainly, but since they repositioned themselves in the market some years ago with prices in line with the very most expensive of the Japanese stuff, they cut me out certainly.

They certainly have their market, last time I was there I recollect looking at jackets ordered by Tom Cruise and think another was Spielberg’s. I can’t justify regular purchases anymore. Last buy was an A-2 about 3 years ago when I cashed in a pension

 

[HBK2025]

They certainly have their market, last time I was there I recollect looking at jackets ordered by Tom Cruise and think another was Spielberg’s. I can’t justify regular purchases anymore. Last buy was an A-2 about 3 years ago when I cashed in a pension

I would like to be able to spend A list celebrity money but the reality is I am closer to the "celebrities" at a holiday camp money.

 

[Jon Crow]

Two merino tee (one short, one long sleeved, one heavy wool jumper, neck scarf and a B3 (wool cap, thermal gloves and Raynaud's) in the Shires.

I'd need that again in the shires after living in Madrid for 14 years haha

 

[WolfofStateSt]

This is one of those highly subjective things that will depend on the combination of local climate and you. Lots of folks here will queue up to tell you shearlings are "too warm" above or below certain temperatures, or not suited to certain places. All I can say is a B3 and an Irvin are very welcome to me here in London in the Winter, and I would be fine in an ANJ3 (really keen to get my hands on one eventually).

You'll probably have a clearer idea when you get the chance to try one on.

The only limit I find with shearlings like that is the big collars can feel a bit.... wet labrador if it rains hard, and obviously they're not an option over a suitjacket or a blazer (I mean, you can wear one on top of a suit at a push, but it'll look ridiculous). Those are the only reasons I wouldn't have one as an only Winter coat, though. Basically I see them as a leather jacket for when it's too cold for a leather jacket.

In terms of instead layering under a leather, well, then it's all about the lining. Leather is a good windbreaker, but it does nothing for warmth. The next step down from a shearling warmth wise would be something like the heavy wool blanket or the quilt lining options Aero offer.

This reply I agree with 100%.


AN4-J aren't really warm jackets, unless you live in like Southern California or Florida you’ll be fine. A good gauge of if it's too warm is if you live by palm trees and cacti. If you can wear a Barbour raincoat or a three piece suit without overheating you can wear an ANJ-4.

Now watch someone from Southern California or Florida pop in the replies and tell me how often they wear their ANJ-4s or what not down there. More proof you’ll be fine.

If you want the jacket and you can comfortable afford one made with real leather, just buy it, you obviously want one or you wouldn’t be asking. Then if you don’t like it you can always sell the thing on here. The only way too know if the jacket “works” for you is to wear it for a while.

And as Edward said, you’ll still need a raincoat and if you are someone who attends a lot of formal occasions, an overcoat of some kind.

 

[Al_Mascarpone]

I sold my Eastman ANJ4 a few years ago. It was too bulky to wear all the time. Sure you go for a walk, fine. But go out for a coffee or a meal, it looks out of place and when you put it on a chair it feels like you just threw a sack of potatoes on the back of the chair. It's not a comfortable jacket to wear daily. A B-10 on the other hand is the exact opposite.

 

[Aloysius]

They certainly have their market, last time I was there I recollect looking at jackets ordered by Tom Cruise and think another was Spielberg’s. I can’t justify regular purchases anymore. Last buy was an A-2 about 3 years ago when I cashed in a pension

This is quite cool though. Do you remember which kinds of jackets they were?

I've saw Tarantino wear an A-2 at the premiere of the Fortnite recreation of his unfilmed chapter, which has the WWII-style name badge (his says 'Tarantino')

Immediately caught my eye because it was obviously an enthusiast A-2 rather than the usual thing you see celebs wearing. Very Rough Wear pockets. It could be possible that when he recreated The Great Escape in Once Upon A Time in Hollywood that he ordered extras of the jacket with his own name tag.

Uma Thurman's jacket looks really cool too, in both cut and hide. No idea what it is, though. @Monitor might know.

 

[Peter Mackin]

Speaking from experience, the Anj4 is useless for walking the dog.im in Scotland, the coldest ,wettest place in the UK. I doesn't work.be great for waiting for a train on a freezing platform, but dog walking, no way,you will get too hot too quickly.,and wish you had worn something else.far better to buy one of the lighter weight sheepskin and layer,they are much warmer than you think. Heavier doesn't always mean better.i persevered too long with my anj4 and b3 ,,before getting rid of.I got to wear mine a handful of times a year,and I'm outdoors every day for hours at a time.
I've found my perfect sheepskin, posted here and vlj many times over the couple of months I've had it.worn it more than the anj4 & B3 in over 10 years.hence when I sold them they were in immac condition. I do love the look of the Anj4 ,,but I love this more

My only issue is I would prefer a size 44,this is just,just a smidgen tight if i want to wear a sweater.