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Alex Oviatt

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The king wearing his father's 60 year old coat--that is impressive!
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Edward

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The king wearing his father's 60 year old coat--that is impressive!
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Assuming it is the same coat (which is highly plausible), given the size of his wardrobe, I'd be somewhat more impressed if either of them ever found the time to wear it out. Nice coat, though. They must be fairly similar in size, as the overlap looks like Junior could easily have buttoned it if he chose to (rather than relying on the belt alone due to buttons not quite being fastenable.
 

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Assuming it is the same coat (which is highly plausible)
While querying, it does seem to be the same coat. Found an article showing it pictured being worn also back in 2005 and talking about how Charles supports reusing your clothes and mending them when broken. Smelled like the typical article that could be summarized as "The royals are people like you and I, they do things us poors should also do!!".

I must say I also find funny that someone from USA directly calls him "The king".
 

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While querying, it does seem to be the same coat. Found an article showing it pictured being worn also back in 2005 and talking about how Charles supports reusing your clothes and mending them when broken. Smelled like the typical article that could be summarized as "The royals are people like you and I, they do things us poors should also do!!".

At one point, I think back in the 80s, Charles was reported as having instructed that the repairs to a pair of his John Lobb shoes, when they were being left in for work, must be visible. It was at the time widely claimed that this was a response to criticisms in some corners of the press on his spending on something or other at the time. There's certainly a huge amount of effort goes into marketing the Windsors as "just like you and me", though there's also an element of them simply being the upper classes here. For centuries the aristocracy has prided itself in buying 'proper' stuff that can be repaired: don't forget you're dealing with a class of people for whom referring to someone as having bought (rather than inherited) their own furniture is considered quite the insult.


I must say I also find funny that someone from USA directly calls him "The king".


Indeed. The power of branding, I suppose!
 
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It's the same coat but yeah, what @Edward said, it probably came out of the rotation more by chance than intent.

There's certainly a huge amount of effort goes into marketing the Windsors as "just like you and me"...

I read something about that but it's something that I never understood - What's the point of having them around if they're just like us? I want them dressed all funny with crowns and jewelry and scepters all that stuff because that's good entertainment. Having some old geezer walking around in camel hair coat, that ain't doing nothing for me to make me think of him as a king.
 

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What's the point of having them around if they're just like us?
They want you to think they are just humble commoners, not public money black holes. They want you to identify yourself with them and don't have crazy ideas, like a republic.
 

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While querying, it does seem to be the same coat. Found an article showing it pictured being worn also back in 2005 and talking about how Charles supports reusing your clothes and mending them when broken. Smelled like the typical article that could be summarized as "The royals are people like you and I, they do things us poors should also do!!".

I must say I also find funny that someone from USA directly calls him "The king".
Why? That's what I think of him as. Although I more usually refer to him as "King Charles."
 

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It's the same coat but yeah, what @Edward said, it probably came out of the rotation more by chance than intent.



I read something about that but it's something that I never understood - What's the point of having them around if they're just like us? I want them dressed all funny with crowns and jewelry and scepters all that stuff because that's good entertainment. Having some old geezer walking around in camel hair coat, that ain't doing nothing for me to make me think of him as a king.


That's certainly a view that's been around for a long time; Bagehot insisted that the strength of the monarchy wasx its "mystique".

Beyond that, I fear we rather get into politics.
 

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Why? That's what I think of him as. Although I more usually refer to him as "King Charles."
It just sounds off to me, or as in you're acknowledging as such. Might also be I'm not British so usually when talking about royals I specify where they are from (as we still have a few in Europe), so in this case I could refer to him as "The king of England", seeing him as someone else's problem, but I would never call him "The King". Maybe I would call him "your king" if bantering with a British.
 
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I did call Elizabeth the queen but that was because it's easier to say queen than Elizabeth and I don't mind calling woman a queen. That's fine. But referring to a man, any man, as a king... No.
As public servants, they do have their role which is of importance, ambassadorial, to begin with but as you said, @Edward, any more said about the matter would constitute discussing politics so that's that.
 

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It just sounds off to me, or as in you're acknowledging as such. Might also be I'm not British so usually when talking about royals I specify where they are from (as we still have a few in Europe), so in this case I could refer to him as "The king of England", seeing him as someone else's problem, but I would never call him "The King". Maybe I would call him "your king" if bantering with a British.

Technically there hasn't been a "King of England" since the Union of Crowns in 1603... ;-) That's certainly a common reference abroad, though, particularly in the English speaking world.



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Technically there hasn't been a "King of England" since the Union of Crowns in 1603... ;-) That's certainly a common reference abroad, though, particularly in the English speaking world.
Yeah, I actually was thinking that England would just be "partial", but outside UK there's many people who refer to England and UK interchangeably, whether for ease of use or just ignorance. Many people would not know which countries constitute UK, many will think Ireland is part of UK and many will use "English" also to refer to Welsh, Scottish and all Irish. Similarly, many aren't aware that Ireland is part of the EU as Brexit had nothing to do with them.
 

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Yeah, I actually was thinking that England would just be "partial", but outside UK there's many people who refer to England and UK interchangeably, whether for ease of use or just ignorance. Many people would not know which countries constitute UK, many will think Ireland is part of UK and many will use "English" also to refer to Welsh, Scottish and all Irish. Similarly, many aren't aware that Ireland is part of the EU as Brexit had nothing to do with them.


Oh, believe me - plenty of people *in* England don't really realise that it's not the sum total of "Britain" or "The UK"! ;-)
 

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