A-1

[jonesy86]

Anyone ever see an A-1 like the one in the left?

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[Sloan1874]

I would not describe that as an A1.

 

[jonesy86]

Cossack?


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[photo2u]

Looks like an insulated type of a heavy leather coat? Not trim. You see how his arms are not long or very bulky. Nice jacket.

 

[Sloan1874]

Cossack?


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Yes, it looks like something similar to Levi's Menlo Cossack: http://archive.hickorees.com/brand/...product/1930s-menlo-leather-jacket-dark-brown

 

[jonesy86]

Yeah you are right, I looked at that. Very different pockets and collar though.


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[jonesy86]

It’s a mystery. I have seen those pockets on a shawl collar somewhere. [emoji1745]‍[emoji3603]


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[Seb Lucas]

Civilian sports jackets like that predate the A1 and continue to be made today with no military or flying connections. Golf, mainly.

 

[jonesy86]

Looks like an insulated type of a heavy leather coat? Not trim. You see how his arms are not long or very bulky. Nice jacket.

I also noticed how long the jacket is as well. I usually associate jackets from the 30s with being high waisted.


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[John Lever]

Surely it's a Cossack style sports mans jacket ? The A1 is a windcheater type design with knitted cuffs and waist.

 

[handymike]

Love this Thedi!

 

[jonesy86]

Nice comparison, that Thedi Deerskin looks soft as butter.


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[jonesy86]

Orgueil has the closest pocket that I can find.

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[Sloan1874]

And with a nosebleed price tag attached to it.

 

[ton312]

The length on this jacket creates a very awkward fit. I'm not one for short jackets to be sure but this makes the wearer look like a hot dog in a bun. Not a pattern that needs revisiting imho. Not everything vintage is good.

 

[jonesy86]

Those pants don’t help either.


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[Sloan1874]

The length on this jacket creates a very awkward fit. I'm not one for short jackets to be sure but this makes the wearer look like a hot dog in a bun. Not a pattern that needs revisiting imho. Not everything vintage is good.

This is a really good point and one worthy of a thread of its own. I remember seeing a couple of Alexander Leather jackets that were based on vintage jackets, and they were big pocketed horrors. It wasn't so much that they were inaccurate, it was just that they were horrible designs in themselves.

 

[jonesy86]

I am enjoying seeing photos and/or examples of vintage stuff and comparing it to today's repros. I tend to like some jackets long and loose, although I also have short and tight and like them too.

 

[Skyhawk]

Civilian sports jackets like that predate the A1 and continue to be made today with no military or flying connections. Golf, mainly.

Yes, The jacket on the right is not an A-1 either. It is a civilian Golf / hunting jacket from the 1920's. It is made of suede or nubuck and they were common. It has been theorized that the A-1 was based on the design of just that type of sport jacket.

It's funny in this case. With those knickers and socks the guy on the left looks like he just wandered off the fairway.

 

[jonesy86]

Yes, The jacket on the right is not an A-1 either. It is a civilian Golf / hunting jacket from the 1920's. It is made of suede or nubuck and they were common. It has been theorized that the A-1 was based on the design of just that type of sport jacket.

It's funny in this case. With those knickers and socks the guy on the left looks like he just wandered off the fairway.

It is very cool to learn about the origins of the A-1. Thanks!