I bypass the whole "what's the best value" thing most of the time by simply repairing and reusing old things -- what modern washing machine is the best value today is irrelevant to me, because I think they're all junk. I use an eighty-year-old Easy wringer washer I was given for free by a friend who wanted to get it out of his cellar. I cleaned it off, oiled it up, figured out a way to resurface the wringer rollers, and it works perfectly fine. To me, thrift means *not buying at all* if I can possibly figure out a way not to. That, to me, is the most effective way of practicing "Use It Up, Wear It Out, Make It Do, or Do Without." As far as cell phones go, never had one, never will. I don't *want* it to be easy to contact me.