Can you date a hat based on sweatband logo?

[digi-shots]

The hat is not in great shape, its a black bowler derby with a leather embossed sweatband.

I can’t seem to make out the name but I can read the words “American” and
“Warranted”. It has a paper label.

thanks for the help!

 

[digi-shots]

Sorry for the multiple images! Not sure what happened.

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

The hat is not in great shape, its a black bowler derby with a leather embossed sweatband.

I can’t seem to make out the name but I can read the words “American” and
“Warranted”. It has a paper label.

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Interesting.
Can we see pics of the hat if possible?
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[georgie girl]

You might have luck searching through trademark images with those words if no one recognizes the logo. Sometimes you get lucky

 

[Lean'n'mean]

The union label will most likely date the hat more accurately than the sweatband logo. Someone will be along & no doubt give you at least a time period for when that particular label was used.

 

[buler]

The specific Union Label makes it pre-1934. I don't recognize the sweatmark. There was "The American Hat Co." which was seen on pre-1934, but the ones I've seen are always marked "The American Hat Co.".

You should browse thru issues of the American Hatter on google books. That would be the best resource.

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[digi-shots]

Here are some more pics... the crown measures 5 1/2”

 

[digi-shots]

Here are some more pics... the crown measures 5 1/2” View attachment 250207 View attachment 250208 View attachment 250209

 

[digi-shots]

I tried to get a better close up of the logo... looks like a “beaver” in the middle of the shield. Looks like lettering just above the beaver...?

 

[digi-shots]

I played with the lighting a bit to see if the letters might be legible. Does look like a “beaver” underneath.