EXTREME Renovation Question...

[Wil Tam]

My 4th DIY

I used lighter fluid on what looks like felt tip pen writing on the inside of my grandfather's old hat. All of it came out except for where it looks like the pen was initial placed down to start writing & that is faint now. The inside has not been sanded as the outside. In an inside out renovation, is it normal to sand down the new exposed felt? Also, any recommendations about removing glue residue from where the liner used to be attached? Thanks again for all the helpful pointers...

Hey Dean,

On my Borso I did a flip but didn't bother sanding it .. because the felt was so soft & furry, I really like it the only thing I did do was brush it.

before the renovation & flip

after the renovation & flip

so I guess it's up to your taste

 

[gtdean48]

Thanks Wil. This one is a touch wooly inside than what I'm envisioning. I've cut down some brims & sanded those but was wondering about how to do that to the body as well...

 

[zetwal]

Imperial Cleaner really calls up buried memories for me. I haven't seen or thought of that stuff since I saw my grandfather using it for something or other decades ago. I think he was cleaning an article of clothing. It may very well have been a hat. I really don't remember that clearly. But I'm positive that's the stuff.

 

[gtdean48]

Imperial Cleaner really calls up buried memories for me. I haven't seen or thought of that stuff since I saw my grandfather using it for something or other decades ago. I think he was cleaning an article of clothing. It may very well have been a hat. I really don't remember that clearly. But I'm positive that's the stuff.

You mean this stuff? http://www.terracepackaging.com/16.html

 

[Wil Tam]

Thanks Wil. This one is a touch wooly inside than what I'm envisioning. I've cut down some brims & sanded those but was wondering about how to do that to the body as well...

I would place the hat on a block then using the finest grit sandpaper that I have, sand in a circular pattern from the top of the crown working my way around the whole hat till it is as smooth as I want it .. if you don't have a block then shove a bath towel into the cavity ... that's how I would do it, but I can't tell you if that is the correct method, but I like experimenting & usually use a hat that I don't mind messing up on just as long it's fixable

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[gtdean48]

No block, will try the towel trick. Do you know what grit your finest grit sandpaper is?

 

[Wil Tam]

I have to look...

No block, will try the towel trick. Do you know what grit your finest grit sandpaper is?

I don't have any on hand at the moment but I used an extra fine 320 grit & ultra fine 600 grit sandpaper to lap [level, buff & polish] my CPU .. you can try anything in that range to smooth the hat... savvy?

 

[gtdean48]

Savvy, Pard. Mucho gracias...

 

[Wil Tam]

no prb!

let us know how it works out ... take pics & post the project bro, would love to see it!

 

[gtdean48]

Bump for more input hopefully...

Anybody got recommendations on this?...
"...any recommendations about removing glue residue from where the liner used to be attached?"

 

[Woodfluter]

May be past the point of concern for this renovation, but...

(Not recommending this, just wondering...)

I've had good results with acetone for removing things that were resistant to milder organic solvents, and the stuff isn't too terribly toxic. Also, I believe acetone is the solvent used in standard marker pens. It is recommended for removing marker pen writing. So, does Art or anyone know if it trashes fur felt? It softens and dissolves many plastics, but that's a whole other matter.

Often works for glue residues too.

You could test it on a scrap of felt I suppose. I could but I can't recall where I stored my acetone.

- Bill

 

[Bob Smalser]

Are there any good shops in the Portland OR area that could do the repairs? Or am I better off to send it somewhere?

I believe The Penman Hat Company is in Portland. His website doesn't list the address so email him:

http://www.penmanhats.com/About_Us.html

 

[Wil Tam]

Dremel

You could just leave it only since it's on the inside of the hat & under the lining .. or if you have a Dremel you can attach the sander & slowly sand it off .. it should come off without damaging to the felt .. then sand it smooth .. or use your muscles if you don't own one.

 

[gtdean48]

Thanks guys. Wil, I am doing the inside-out flip that you did, so it will be on outside & not hidden by the ribbon...

 

[Wil Tam]

Thanks guys. Wil, I am doing the inside-out flip that you did, so it will be on outside & not hidden by the ribbon...

ahh I see...

Is there a lot of it? Can you try to flake it off? ... sanding should definitely work

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[Wil Tam]

Hey Dean!


I got a hat yesterday that had glue on it and I stripped it completely [it needed to be refurbed anyway] I got the glue off with freezing cold running water, elbow grease & a pumice stone... worked perfectly without any ill effects left on the felt since it was just on the surface, but it did leave my hands numb from the cold [huh]

So how's this project going?

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[gtdean48]

Going slow Wil. The liner cleaning sidetracked me this weekend. Thanks for the tip, will give it try this weekend if I can...

 

[Wil Tam]

what's wrong with the liner?

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[gtdean48]

I don't know what or how it got whatever was on it but it was nasty! Cleaned up pretty well with cold water, mild detergent & hand washing, tho.

 

[Magus]

GTD

Here is a Naptha walkthrough I posts a while back. Hope it helps.

M

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=31647&highlight=Naptha