French Hats and makers.

Discussion in 'Hats' started by BellyTank, Feb 21, 2009.

  1. Daniele Tanto

    Daniele Tanto My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    I have a special place in my heart for French hats. I have many and from different eras having found splendid opportunities on the European market. Probably without the French hat of the nineteenth century we will not have hats as we know and love them.
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    Today I show you a Sools made by Mossant
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    Sools was a shop that branded the hats produced with its own name.
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    This is a Sools - Mossant Imperial size 58 or 5 1/2 on the French size scale or 7 1/4 on the American scale
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    The hat is in very malleable felt with some very refined construction details, see the finish of the brim
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    The color is "Plomb" (Lead) and the ribbon matches it as color
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    These are the measures of this elegance: brim are 5.5 cm, the open crown measures 12.5 cm. and the ribbon is 4cm
    It is not my size. Lovers of European hats are warned ;)
     
  2. Daniele Tanto

    Daniele Tanto My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    In my search for French hats, I came across a very difficult brand to find because they often produced as subcontractors for large French brands. I have some examples of Ecuyer & Thomas with the original brand and others built for brands like Sools, Motsch and others.
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    This Ecuyer & Thomas wears what was their last "Chapeau Everest" brand when French hats were on the brink
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    Ecuyer & Thomas "Everest" size 58 or 5 1/2 in the French size scale or 7 1/4 in the American one
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    The hat is made of medium weight felt with good construction details
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    The color is "Faisan" (Pheasant) and the ribbon is the same color
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    These are the measures of the "Chapeu Everest": brim are 5 cm, the shaped crown measures 10.5 cm. and the ribbon is 4cm.
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    Another good example of European headwear for those who love it
     
  3. steur

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    Nice finds, Daniele. For such a large country as France it's kind of surprising the French hats are so difficult to find. Well, the good ones anyway.
     
  4. Daniele Tanto

    Daniele Tanto My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    The question about the scarcity of French hats on the European market is very interesting and I have asked myself it several times. My opinion is this: until the first years after the Second World War, French hatters produced high quality hats, but then it seems to have been the first to lose strength and already in the sixties the quality evidently declined. Then I think it was a problem of commercial expansion in other European markets, perhaps the hats were overpriced and here someone was on sale at impossible prices, when a Borsalino or Barbisio cost two thirds. These are my impressions but they should be deepened
     
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  5. steur

    steur

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    That is certainly plausible based on what I see in the Netherlands is on offer on the vintage market: mostly German produced hats (Mayser and Wegener are dominant) English and Italian hats after that, more or less the same amount. American, French, Belgian and even Dutch hats are few and far between.
     
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  6. Just Daniel

    Just Daniel Practically Family

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    That’s Dr Max’s size :)


     
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  7. belfastboy

    belfastboy I'll Lock Up

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    he has Ignacio....they are all his size!
     
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  8. Garrett

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    Deadstock Boater - this seller has a dozen other boaters (all early) in almost mint condition.


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  9. steur

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  10. Garrett

    Garrett My Mail is Forwarded Here

    The back of the tags on these say "Paris"



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  11. mayserwegener

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    Garrett, Super find! The Brim Edge effect is fantastic. Also really like the Form and Ribbon width + Bow design. I have old German and Austrian hats with similar fine rope cords. Have you similar cords on American hats?
     
  12. Garrett

    Garrett My Mail is Forwarded Here

    I've seen a few chords on early American manufactured felts as well as boaters.


    Here is another that seller has

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  13. Garrett

    Garrett My Mail is Forwarded Here

    One of them has a cork crown tip


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  14. alanfgag

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    These are fantastic... thanks for sharing.
     
  15. alanfgag

    alanfgag

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    Detail of an early 20th century fancy western hat with silk rope and tassles.

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  16. drmaxtejeda

    drmaxtejeda I'll Lock Up

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    Hahaha
     
  17. drmaxtejeda

    drmaxtejeda I'll Lock Up

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    Beatiful, Daniele!
    For sale?
     
  18. drmaxtejeda

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  19. Daniele Tanto

    Daniele Tanto My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Yes. See your PM section for details
     
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