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Guardians of Style?

Spatterdash

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I was recently waylaid on the road of my normal schedule and taken to a future husband and his companions. The soon-to-be groom imparted to me his tale of sorrow and desperation.

It seems that despite a working knowledge of Google and internet research, the doomed bachelor had found nothing to shed light on his beloved's commands concerning the wedding. She demanded that he dress himself and his party as gentlemen should for a traditional wedding and that he should learn for himself what that means. The couple are scheduled to be wed before lunch at a lakeside chapel with the bride providing no preferences beyond an honouring of tradition. So I had been brought forward to guide the party through the many choices at the formalwear boutique. My decisions would be treated as gospel as long as I also provided explanations for my choices. I was told money was no issue and the faith of the men was mine to destroy or validate. So away we went.

I decked them all in morningwear, to include charcoal cutaway coats, nailhead slacks, gray gloves and vests and white wing collar shirts. The grooms men get black four-in-hand ties, the groom a black cravat with stickpin. I pointed the groom to a few online locations for a real silk hat if he wished to purchase one, and instructed him that his gloves and hat should go to the second man in the party, not the best man, his job is the ring and the groom's welfare. Every single thing was questioned but we had fun and everyone seems enthused.

"I thought mourning wear was for funerals."
"It is, this is morningwear, not mourning wear."
"Huh?"
"You know, the wedding is before lunch in the...?"
"Oh."

"Why do men dress alike at formal events?"
"To look distinguished while allowing the ladies all the attention".
"Wow, that's kinda classy."

"Why is the bottom vest button left undone?"
"Because more educated men than us saw the King do it when he got fat, and they honoured him. We honour them.
Same rule with the coats, gentlemen, top buttons only."

"Why did you learn all this stuff?"
"Because I like giving the bridesmaids of the world something to enjoy."

Despite the many threads in the Lounge concerning tacky comments and odd reactions to even our more reserved clothing, have you ladies and gents ever been approached quietly by a friend as some sort of guru of style, some keeper of the wardrobe's secrets?
 

raiderrescuer

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Ties...

I have been asked to help tie Ties...just 'cause I was in the Military for 20 years and most of it as a Coastie. (Yes I know, if you can't tie a knot tie a lot !)
 

Naama

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No, not really. My friends always tell me that they like my style, I've also been nicknamed "Styling Queen" by a friend of a friend (but I don't like that one though) or a friend called me a "Style Bomb" (I don't like that as well :eusa_doh: ). But if it comes to other people, they mean, it works on me, but wouldn't work on them, whatever that's supposed to mean............ [huh] Theres only one friend for who I always have to do the makeup.

:eek:fftopic: by the way, I really love the way you write, Spatterdash


Naama
 

Daisy Buchanan

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Like Naama, my friend say the same thing. For some reason it's just not for them. However, I have done their make-up plenty of times. A close friend of mine even came to me on her wedding day and asked me to do it for her. I did take that as a compliment.
 

Paisley

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People don't ask me for advice on clothing. But when I give clothing as gifts, the recipients almost always love what I pick out for them.
 
"Why is the bottom vest button left undone?"
"Because more educated men than us saw the King do it when he got fat, and they honoured him. We honour them.
Same rule with the coats, gentlemen, top buttons only."

Aha! I have to admit, it took me a long time to stop bottoming my bottom button; I never liked the look of a jacket flapping around in the breeze. I'm a fairly thin man, if I want to keep my bottom button buttoned, I should be allowed to do it without censure.

The King is Dead! Long live the King!

Regards,

Senator Jack
 

Lady Day

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I get asked by a couple of my friends constantly about what they should wear, or if we are going out, what I am wearing so they dont look 'underdressed'.

The funny thing about it to me is, both of these gals are super tall, and a size 6. So dogma of modern fashion states they would look good in anything just by walking into a store and pointing at it.

"I wish to wear that garment."
"Let it be so."

Me, no way near that 'ideal' of today, but they still ask. I guess it makes me feel just a bit special. :rolleyes:

LD
 

SinatraStyle

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I've never considered myself much of a style guru, but I guess that tucking in my shirt and wearing anything other than jeans to a wedding sets me apart from my peers.

I've had a couple of people ask general advice about what to wear for different occasions. It's kind of flattering in a way, but I have to admit that I don't always know the right answers. It's the "common sense" type of things that always get me. Like why do people feel dinner at a nice restaurant requries ripped jeans, tee shirt and trucker caps? Even more confusing to me is why are people looking quizically at me for dressing nicely and not giving the 'offenders' a second glance?

Sorry, I digress.
 

scotrace

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Senator Jack said:
Aha! I have to admit, it took me a long time to stop bottoming my bottom button; I never liked the look of a jacket flapping around in the breeze. I'm a fairly thin man, if I want to keep my bottom button buttoned, I should be allowed to do it without censure.

The King is Dead! Long live the King!

Regards,

Senator Jack

With a waistcoat - I'm with you, bub. I don't care what a fat old belching king did, I'm buttoning that bottom button.
 

Paisley

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I like to leave the bottom button undone on cardigans and some jackets. Otherwise, the fabric tends to bunch up at the waist when I sit down.
 

Spatterdash

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scotrace said:
With a waistcoat - I'm with you, bub. I don't care what a fat old belching king did, I'm buttoning that bottom button.

Sigh... I'd think you an uncouth Visigoth, but your avatar clearly undermines that presumption. Since both of you gentlemen obviously have excellent taste yet insist on this subtle, anti-authoritarian gesture, I suppose I'll have to consider you rebels of the somber sort.
These days, no one in spats can point at anyone else and say "That really isn't appropriate." I applaud your educated choice to button up. Carry on, gents.

More on topic to the thread, let me clarify that I don't consider myself some master of style, I'm just considered a source of suggestions for some folks in my inner circle. My point was that despite many people finding our wardrobe tastes unusual, I find I'm sometimes approached for advice.
I guess it's because I'm known to yell out comments while watching movies at a friend's house...

"No, no, don't trust him, he's wearing a bowtie but not a vest or a double-breasted jacket! Look at that vulgar expanse of shirt buttons! Keep your eye on him, he's ..OH!
Well, I tried to warn him.
What's so funny?"
 

Tomasso

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scotrace said:
With a waistcoat - I'm buttoning that bottom button.
:eek: Most custom tailors cut their waistcoats in such a way as to eliminate the possibility of buttoning the bottom button. That is to say that the button and buttonhole are not in alignment.
 

Lady Day

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Paisley said:
I like to leave the bottom button undone on cardigans and some jackets. Otherwise, the fabric tends to bunch up at the waist when I sit down.


You're sposta' unbutton the bottom button when you sit down just for that reason, correct? :rolleyes:


LD
 

scotrace

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Spatterdash said:
I applaud your educated choice to button up. Carry on, gents.

Thank, you, Old Bean. Mostly for allowing that it might be an intentional act with full knowledge of the history and buttressing arguments in favor of that last undone button.

It is interesting to watch golden era films with others. We watch them for the glimpses of novel fashion or the occasional undiscovered jacket cut or cuff treatment. They are watching it for the story or some other silly business.

Does anyone notice that when you are going out in the company of friends they tend to raise their standard of dress knowing you will be part of the group? Or do they go the opposite direction and make indiscreet comparisons all night.

"Ain't you hot in that thing?"
 

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