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Here's to you Root!!

BellyTank

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Art Fawcett said:
T...BT, could you clarify what you think is absolutely correct? Not sure what you are agreeing with.

Did I do a bad...?

"Correct"- as in: "... true or accurate"-
-in regards to my expectations of 'your' hat and what I equate with a hat that marks the era(for me).

I just thought it was a good word- supposed to be positive... apparently, maybe not such a good choice.
Sorry to put you in any doubt

It would also look great with a slight curl to the brim edge- like the example
in JP's posted image.

I like the hat Art.
Like it a lot!

B
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Ah...

Okay, I see what I did. I looked, but didn't read! Here's his original pic:
knapphat.jpg
which I prefer. (even tho that cleft chin is a bit much) Sorry, Wild Root.
 

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That hat looks fantastic! It epitomises the 30's look and style.

May I ask what number block did you use on it? It is very untapered fore and aft, which is what helps so much with the 30's look.
 

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thanks Zohar..the block is a #52, straight sided standard 30's 40s' block. Makes for a crisp roll at the top of the crown.

BT, sorry, I misread your post , posted my reply, then reread your post and edited mine. Don't know what my mind was reading but it wasn't correct. Thank you, I can't ask for more than being correct for the era. This was actually a design first offered in 1930 as best I can tell from my research and was carried till at least 1935 (where I stopped looking). Also, you are right about the brim curl. I used a snap brim flange with this one but the felt is SO soft that it has a hard time holding it. I will be playing more with it today.

Craig, I'll play with the pinch a bit & see what I can come up with and you are right, it would look classier with a bound edge. I'd be happy to add it for you but I have a bit of a dilemma in that I have guys asking for unbound brims also. I think the best approach might be to keep the original design unbound but offer it to the client as an option.
 

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Art Fawcett said:
thank

Craig, I'll play with the pinch a bit & see what I can come up with and you are right, it would look classier with a bound edge. I'd be happy to add it for you but I have a bit of a dilemma in that I have guys asking for unbound brims also. I think the best approach might be to keep the original design unbound but offer it to the client as an option.

Works for me. That would be "Version 2 with the bound edge and C block"
 

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Craig Robertson said:
(even tho that cleft chin is a bit much) Sorry, Wild Root.

Why I oughta.... :p

I'll let that one slide, but let’s remember that the focus is on the hat!

Art, that's a nice looking hat! Very well done and the name isn't too bad but, might I make a suggestion, I've loved these tall crowns from the time I saw them in the original film "42nd Street" so, I think you should call it "The 42nd St"! That fits its style better seeing that Jazz men wore wider brims with big feathers.

I've seen that bow treatment in original ads, I my self like more of a regular bow much like the one on my original tall narrow brim Stetson.


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Marc, no can do on the Cav edge...not possible for me or anyone else. That has to be done during the felting process.
Root, you must have a different vision of what "Jazzmen" wore back then. My minds eye sees something different.
 

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Hey, Art...can you explain to me the process behind the "cavanaugh edge"...and why it's not able to be reproduced today....? I'd love to know.
 

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Craig Robertson said:
Hey, Art...can you explain to me the process behind the "cavanaugh edge"...and why it's not able to be reproduced today....? I'd love to know.

A quick search for "Cavanagh" got me these threads. Brad Bowers is our resident expert on the Cavanagh Edge, if I recall correctly.

http://thefedoralounge.net/showthread.php?t=4993&highlight=cavanagh

http://thefedoralounge.net/showthread.php?t=3589&highlight=cavanagh

http://thefedoralounge.net/showthread.php?t=1268&highlight=cavanagh
 

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I said that because...

Most people would (besides us) associate the name "Jazz" with the term "Zoot". So, if you want to step up the class of the hat, I'd call it "The 42nd St" or "The Boss" seeing most men of the mob wore them in those early days of the Depression.

Trust me, when I saw your hat, "Jazz" wasn't the first thing that came to mind.

"side by side, they're glorified
Where the underworld can meet the elite,
Forty-Second Street".

=WR=
 

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