Incredible HOLY GRAIL German 1930s Sportcoat

[Rudie]

Great minds, etc.

Haha, I noticed that, too. So if I should ever decide to get me some man ****s I can still wear the jacket. ^^

 

[Tomasso]

Don't know if these wrinkles in the back are always there when I'm wearing it...

The wrinkles don't bother me nearly as much as the collar issue (the gap between the collar seam and the collar). Seems to be a rather common occurence on vintage jackets. IIRC, there was a thread around here some time ago that dealt with the various fixes which can be employed. Nonetheless, a lovely jacket.

 

[Rudie]

Yeah, I noticed that collar issue, too. It doesn't bother me, though. Not with a vintage jacket like that. It would, if it was a jacket I had bought new or if it was made bespoke for me. But being the rare beast that it is I am not complaining at all.

 

[Benny Holiday]

Man that's a great look Rudie. You've nailed it, a great ensemble. By far the best jacket I've seen in a while.

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

I just bought two early 50s magazines yesterday and they still had similar jackets in them. will scan them later...

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

 

[Mario]

I talked to the Cinetex guys just yesterday and they firmly believe that Rudie's jacket is actually from the late 40's/50's rather than the 30's - and those scans you posted really hit the nail on its head: 3/4 belt, chest & pocket pleats, lapels with rather low gorge - it's all there.

 

[Rudie]

Now who would have expected that. I thought the lapels and button stance were strange for 30s, but it never crossed my mind that it could be from the 40s or even 50s instead. Maybe it's 70s does 50s does 30s?

 

[herringbonekid]

although there's not much difference between this 1937 image:

and this:

...the later illustration does look slightly nearer to Rudies jacket going by the width of the chest pleats, so (taking into account that illustrations aren't very reliably accurate) i woud agree that late 40s is probably the safest bet. then again, the collar shape and gorge height in each are almost identical. it's a close call; it could still be 30s.

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

Yes. I don't say it was from the 50s but the style lived on. Still super rare. I haven't seen a jacket like this in person before.

 

[Qirrel]

Jackets in Germany did get more ease in during the late 40s and all through the 50s, but it is hard to differentiate between a 30s jacket which is too large and a 50s jacket which is too small. (Too small and too large as in tighter or looser than intended for the original wearer.)

 

[Mario]

Yes. I don't say it was from the 50s but the style lived on. Still super rare. I haven't seen a jacket like this in person before.

Agreed. At least it's not one of those sloppy 70's-does-the-whatever jacket that I usually have to do with.

That 1937 scan (obviously from Karstadt, an old German department store chain founded in 1881 with a huge store built in Berlin-Neukölln in 1929) is interesting in that it shows the prices in Reichsmark. A combination of sportcoat no. 6 and a pair of summer trousers (the higher priced ones) would cost around 245 Euros today. Same for the gabardine suit. Of course this is just a very rough approximation but I still found it interesting because I haven't seen many old German catalog scans with Reichsmark prices so far.

 

[DamianM]

WOW those are amazing