Installing Wind Cords

Discussion in 'Hats' started by Stoney, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. Loz Dawes

    Loz Dawes Familiar Face

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    here are my 2 Porkies, with added wind cords...

    Christy's trolley.jpg Heisenberg trolley.jpg
     
  2. ManofKent

    ManofKent My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Loz - they look good, but are they more for aesthetics than use? I can't imagine those brims are that much of a wind catcher.
     
  3. Loz Dawes

    Loz Dawes Familiar Face

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    a bit of both... I'd sooner have them and not need them... etc.
     
  4. Greyryder

    Greyryder One of the Regulars

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    Looking to put wind trolleys on my hats. I'm kind of leaning away from using elastic, not sure how long it would hold up. Would 1.5mm cord be too thick, or should I look into something narrower, like embroidery floss?
     
  5. TheDane

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    If you like your hat, I would recommend using elastic. The old Borsalinos with elastic I have - and have seen - all hold up nicely. If you're satisfied with a lifespan of 50 years, elastic shouldn't pose a problem.
     
  6. Brother cavefish

    Brother cavefish Banned

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    oh , i was wondering what those little buttons were for , i just thought it was a bobble or something on the headband
     
  7. Greyryder

    Greyryder One of the Regulars

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    I'm not sure they make elastic like they used to. There's also the added problem of finding elastic to match the blue ribbon I put on one of them. I've found some 1mm rayon cord, I'm eyeing for the job.
     
  8. TheDane

    TheDane Call Me a Cab

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    Yes, that can be said about almost anything. Decades ago elastic had a tendency to rot, but better materials make it last a lot longer today. Rayon is hardly made nowadays. I know of only one company, that makes grosgrain ribbon from real rayon - and it can't be bought over the web. What is called "rayon" today is made from synthetic fibres, and it has very different properties. Not much is, what it used to be.

    I prefer elastic, because it doesn't put so much strain to the felt - and because I live in windy condition and actually use my windcords. When the hat blows off your head, it gains a lot of speed, before the string is stretched to it's full length. At this time the acceleration stops in a split-second - almost like the tip of a whip - and all the stored energy is released with a snap. The old braided rayon cords were very strong, and they will often take a piece out of the felt, before they break. Been there ... tried that ... didn't like it! ;)
     
  9. Greyryder

    Greyryder One of the Regulars

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    I'll keep that in mind, if I ever need to use the cords, but I really don't want elastic on my hats. Even the newer stuff doesn't seem to last very long, from what I've seen.
     
  10. viclip

    viclip Practically Family

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    bump for those interested in working with a wind trolley/cord
     
  11. carranty

    carranty One of the Regulars

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    I've recently followed this very useful guide to install a wind trolley on one of my custom hats. I'll try to get pics up soon, but just wanted to let people know of an alternative to elastic cord.

    I used something called nanocord, it's a form of paracord, but thinner with a lower breaking strain. I wanted to be sure it would hold up to the job, and so I tested it versus the windcord on an Akubra I own but rarely wear, it has approximately 3 times the breaking strain of the akubra cord (so it won't break in a strong gust). It isn't as soft to the touch as Akubra cord, it feels quite coarse, but I rarely fondly my wind cord so this isn't an issue for me. It has no elasticity, so I suggest you use the advice given in this tutorial and attach the cord to a button on the inside of the hat, or you might loose a chunk of felt if the hat is blown off. What I like most about it is that is comes in a very large variety of colours, so there's a pretty good chance you can find one that matches your hat.

    I can't find a link to the manufacturers website, but I've included a link to an American retailer below where you can check out the colours, though this stuff is available all over the place (ebay/etsy/google searches etc).

    http://paracordgalaxy.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=130
     
  12. rclark

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    I know this issue has been addressed before, but for the life of me I cannot find the thread that shows how to attach a wind cord to a hat. I know I've seen someone post a link to it recently but have spent the last hour searching for that link. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance.
     
  13. Frunobulax

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    I just make a little u-shaped loop and throw 5 or 6 stitches around it just below and behind the bow. You have to lift the bow up a bit to hide it.
     
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  14. Fed in a Fedora

    Fed in a Fedora Practically Family

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    You might put a little patch of leather inside to keep from tearing through the felt. That is a lot of stress for that one small area.
     
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  15. Frunobulax

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    That's a very good idea. I never warmed up to the idea of using a button, but I like that!
     
  16. ConsiderMeMilesDavis

    ConsiderMeMilesDavis One of the Regulars

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    As of this week, Optimo will not.

    Any other vendor suggestions for the lazy-inclined?
     
  17. Hercule

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    It really isn't a difficult project to do yourself. Think about it, by buying a wind trolley and installing it yourself you're already doing much of the work yourself.
     
  18. RJR

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    The leather "backer"seems like just the thing.
     
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  19. redhawks2

    redhawks2 One of the Regulars

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    Hey Stoney, can you re-post your tutorial on installing a wind trolley? The pictures have disappeared due to the age of the post I suspect.
    Thanks!
     
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