Lighters banned on all flights beginning 4/14/05

Discussion in 'The Observation Bar' started by ITG, Apr 12, 2005.

  1. Mycroft

    Mycroft One Too Many

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    Where did you get an Indy Lighter, or did you make it? Any how, its all in the matter of public saftey, so I am cool with it. Also, what is even more scarier is that Smokey Mountain Knife Works sells ALL PLASTIC KNIVES!!!
     
  2. Chamorro

    Chamorro A-List Customer

    The mail IS transpored through commercial airlines. More irony.
     
  3. Mycroft

    Mycroft One Too Many

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    So are coffins.
     
  4. Chamorro

    Chamorro A-List Customer

    How very socialist of you. But then I suppose Europeans are used to giving up their personal freedoms in the name of so-called public safety.
     
  5. Mycroft

    Mycroft One Too Many

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    I agree, I do swing a little(maybe a lot) socialist, but I have been to Isreal and their laws keep so many terroist off planes, that it is ok sacrificing so fredoms.
     
  6. Fuente

    Fuente Familiar Face

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    Dave,

    Many cigars are shipped with cedar sheets separating the layers inside the box. Ask your local tobacconist to save them for you. Tearing the sheets into strips will give you an effective splint with which to light your cigar. Light the splint with a match or lighter and you are ready to ignite the cigar.

    Rich :cool2:
     
  7. BellyTank

    BellyTank I'll Lock Up

    What's this about Europeans and personal freedoms?
    Please elaborate- I'd like to know what I'm missing out on-
    -what's the problem with public safety?

    Regards-

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  8. Canadave

    Canadave One Too Many

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    I think that's an arrogant and argumentative statement for a Bartender to make.

    David
     
  9. BellyTank

    BellyTank I'll Lock Up

    Unfortunately, there seem to be some feelings of global superiority among some types.


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  10. Michaelson

    Michaelson One Too Many

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    Not at all. Just a difference in cultures, and both sides of the discussion strongly believe they're right. No changing that, and there's no reason to. We can come up with as many reasons 'why' to your reasons of 'why not', so let's just forget it, and I'll pony up the next round. :cheers1: Regards. Michaelson
     
  11. BellyTank

    BellyTank I'll Lock Up

    Who/what/which are you defending or answering too Michaelson?

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  12. Michaelson

    Michaelson One Too Many

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    Your last post, BellyTank. Regards. Michaelson
     
  13. Chamorro

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    Ah, Michaelson ...

    Blessed are the peacemakers ...

    Sorry, not my intention to offend. Just speaking off the cuff. Chalk it up to American arrogance. It's just the fact that our government lately is slowly chipping away at our rights in the name of "Homeland Security" and doing an ass-backward job of it too. Par for the course in Uncle Sam's efficiency.
     
  14. Michaelson

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    Agreed, Chamorro. Ever since Homeland Security was formed, and they were tagging on retired military man after retired politician into jobs in the newly formed department at National and State levels, I was reminded of the Capt. 'Redlegs' character from the movie 'The Outlaw Josie Wales', who (to paraphrase) said 'once this one is run to ground, there's more to do down in Mexico. There's no end to doin' good!"

    Reminds me of HS....they've closed the so called 'loopholes' to secure the homeland, but let's see what ELSE we can do....there's no end to doin' good! :rolleyes:

    Regards! Michaelson
     
  15. BellyTank

    BellyTank I'll Lock Up

    It seems like a lot of the stuff done for the sake of 'National Security', where ever it is - is done to control 'internal' rather than 'externa'l threats- make the 'work' of the authorities easier...
    Public Control, that kind of thing. The type of thing they did in England a few years back- the 'search and seizure' thing, where cops can do just that-
    makes the cops' job easier I guess and at the same time- if you have nothing to hide, then what's the problem. But shutting down free speech and public gatherings- that's the stuff I don't like. And I don't need a lighter on a plane. Lighters are for smoking, and we shouldn't even be doing that I guess...

    No offense taken guys- just interested...
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  16. Marlowe

    Marlowe One of the Regulars

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    To me, smoking in the passenger compartment isn't the issue. They now ban lighters even in checked luggage. What's the point of that? Who is the asinine twerp that decided that? If planes crashed because there were cigarette lighters in them, you wouldn't be able to get to the local market for all the aluminum wreckage all over the ground. This is just an egregious abuse of power.
     
  17. Dr. J

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    "Dr. J, that sounds as if they shouldn't have been able to do that because they weren't supposed to start until 4/14, which was about 5 days ago."

    Actually Holly, my lighter was checked in my bag. I intentionally checked my lighter so there wouldn't be a problem. Boy, did I feel foolish (and steamed) when I found the note!

    By the way, to the person interested in the lighter, here's the e-mail address of the man who makes them: relic_raider@earthlink.net

    They are $49 with shipping included and in my opinion, are the best on the market! I should get my new one tomorrow or Monday and believe me, this thing isn't going NEAR an airport!

    Regards, Dr. J
     
  18. Michaelson

    Michaelson One Too Many

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    If you're not needing a lighter per se, but would rather have a GREAT flashlight instead, check out RelicRaiders 'ziplite' that he can install INSIDE one of his great Zippos! I have two, and am awaiting a third as we 'speak'. They're re-engineered with super bright industrial LED's, and easily replaced button batteries. HIGHLY recommended by this writer! High regards! Michaelson
     
  19. Dr. J

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    You said it Michaelson! I've got one of those as well (luckily, it wasn't the one in my bag!). They are great if you don't smoke or just want a handy flashlight!

    Regards, Dr. J
     
  20. Canadave

    Canadave One Too Many

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    Googled 'em, can't find 'em. Are these available? Where?

    David
     

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