Looking for a Hat

[Dash Riprock]

I have a Stetson Gambler hat now (see pic below), and I like the top part of the hat.

But, I'd like to find a hat where the top part is the same (Gambler style) but the bill is flat.

I've seen movies where actors where wearing hats with a gambler style top and flat bill but I'm not able to find anyplace online to buy one and I've looked thru websites of numerous vendors.

If anybody knows where I can find a hat like that, please let me know. Thanks!

 

[jackadven]

It would be a good bit pricier than the Stetson Gambler, but a custom hatter like Hornskov could probably make whatever you wanted.

 

[The Lost kansan]

If you’re wanting it western weight resistol sells quite a few of their hats as open crown, flat brims meant to be shaped. There’s good resources here on shaping the crown and trimming down brims but also if you live near a decent hat store they’ll be able to give you any shape you want.
Also check out Amish stores if you can. They’ll make some similar hats as well.

 

[Rmccamey]

Gannon

 

[Hurricane Jack]

I have a Stetson Gambler hat now (see pic below), and I like the top part of the hat.

But, I'd like to find a hat where the top part is the same (Gambler style) but the bill is flat.

I've seen movies where actors where wearing hats with a gambler style top and flat bill but I'm not able to find anyplace online to buy one and I've looked thru websites of numerous vendors.

If anybody knows where I can find a hat like that, please let me know. Thanks!


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If you’re still trying to clone Donnie Van Zant‘s hat you probably want to look for a vintage Stetson Derringer 3X in black.

 

[Lean'n'mean]

Is this the sort of style you're looking for ?

 

[Dash Riprock]

Is this the sort of style you're looking for ?

Yes, this is the style I've seen guys in movies wear that I was interested in.

A little different than the Donnie Van Zant hat

 

[Dash Riprock]

If you’re still trying to clone Donnie Van Zant‘s hat you probably want to look for a vintage Stetson Derringer 3X in black.

Are these no longer being made by Stetson?

They look pretty cool.

 

[The Lost kansan]

Yes, this is the style I've seen guys in movies wear that I was interested in.

A little different than the Donnie Van Zant hat

Unless you want to go full on custom with the budget that brings I highly recommend an open crown resistol. You’ll be able to achieve that look quite easily with a little steam and reference videos/pictures

 

[wsmontana]

You can get an old Resistol Stagecoach or 3X Beaver and pretty much do what you want with it.

Post in thread 'The Resistol Roundup'
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/the-resistol-roundup.42092/post-3159204

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Are these no longer being made by Stetson?

They look pretty cool.

LL Bean used to sell their version of the Derringer made by Stetson.

Stetson publishes their current catalog online, as do most others. Take some time looking thru it & see if there is something that will work for what you want. Only you can deter that.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Thanks for all the great info guys!

 

[Dash Riprock]

You’ll be able to achieve that look quite easily with a little steam

In theory, I could take the Stetson Gambler to a hat shop and have them reshape the bill as well come to think of it.

 

[shopkin]

Caps and ducks have bills. Hats have brims.

 

[The Lost kansan]

In theory, I could take the Stetson Gambler to a hat shop and have them reshape the bill as well come to think of it.

Straws a bit trickier to flatten out without it going floppy (if you’re converting the hat in the picture) but it can be done. I think @RickP has some excellent tips on keeping straw brims straight if you decide to go that route. Look through his posts on the “What hat are you wearing today” thread if you’re interested

 

[Dash Riprock]

Caps and ducks have bills. Hats have brims.

Sorry, I'm trying to learn the proper lingo.

Straws a bit trickier to flatten out without it going floppy (if you’re converting the hat in the picture) but it can be done. I think @RickP has some excellent tips on keeping straw brims straight if you decide to go that route. Look through his posts on the “What hat are you wearing today” thread if you’re interested

Thanks for the tip!

I'd probably seek out a reputable hat shop and then gamble to see if they are actually reputable or not.

You know how it is these days, people claim they know how to do certain things and sometimes it works out and sometimes not so much.

 

[jackadven]

I'd probably seek out a reputable hat shop and then gamble to see if they are actually reputable or not.

Very befitting of the hat.

 

[The Lost kansan]

Very befitting of the hat.

Just wait till the bowler hat guys start tossing bowling balls in the hat stores

 

[jackadven]

Just wait till the bowler hat guys start tossing bowling balls in the hat stores

Or ordering soup in restaurants.

 

[RickP]

Straws a bit trickier to flatten out without it going floppy (if you’re converting the hat in the picture) but it can be done. I think @RickP has some excellent tips on keeping straw brims straight if you decide to go that route. Look through his posts on the “What hat are you wearing today” thread if you’re interested

Ive done a couple straw brim rolls WITHOUT dissassembly ( dont have to remove the leather sweat) Get yourself a wooden curling tool on ebay or etsy. There are a handfull of craftsmen in eastern europe that make these for about $125-140. Get the one with two diffferent sized curl slots. What I found works best is to soak the brim in a couple inches of warm water until its saturated. work the curl into the brim gently in 3 or 4 steps.. DONT TRY TO WORK THE TOOL IN ONE STEP, OR YOU WILL tear the straw fabric. I start with the bigger curve about halfway through until youve got a gentle curve all around and then resoak the brim and move to the smaller slot on the tool ( unless you have a 5" brim and want an inch and a half curl) I made a little curved backing block that matches the curl you want.

Prob the most important tool is an old Tower Hobbies tacking iron ( it was sold for securing monocote wing cover fabric to the wing structure of an R/C model airplane. Dad gave me this one so I wouldnt melt plastics with his ( 10 yr old me made a mess in 1960) Put the backing form in the back, cover with a press cloth and ROLL the little iron over the straw a few inches at a time. Do NOT rub it back and forth. Using this iron prevents steaming your fingers with a regular steam iron ( 2nd degree steam burns should NOT be part of this process). Note the silicone oven mitt... USE IT

Particlarly with Straw, you may have to let the hat tell you if it will let you actually do a particular curl. Most straws will take a 1/2 or 3/4 curl with too much grief. A full closed curl mat not work with your straw.

FYI... also check whether the brim has a reinforcing wire on the edge. If so steam until you can seperate the straw layers and remove the wire. reglue the edges back down. Absolute worst case scenerio, you may want to sew some matching grosgrain ribbon on the edge of the brim