Pre-1930s neckties

[Flat Foot Floey]

I saw one of these black and very short clip ons at a local second hand store. If one of you is interested I could go back and buy it for you.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

What does the seam have to do with the "resiliency" of the construction?

It's at that seam, apparently, along with the loose slip-stitch that holds the centre seam together, that allows some "give" and stretch when the tie's being pulled around when being tied. According to the patent, at least.

It's the way the centre seam is stitched really that provides the resiliency.

bk

 

[herringbonekid]

Qirrel, i know what you're thinking; ties are already on the bias so an extra seam or two wouldn't make any difference.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

The patent number is 1447090, dated Feb 27th 1923, for anyone who wants to read the inventor's claims.

 

[Qirrel]

To me it always seemed obvious that the seams are there simply because cutting the tie in several pieces wastes less fabric. What patent are we talking about here, by the way? Langsdorf's 1923 "resilient construction" patent does not describe a method of "paneling".

 

[herringbonekid]

almost certainly early - mid 20s:

(are knit / crochet ties welcome in this thread ?)

 

[DamianM]

If they are pre-30s they are.

 

[Qirrel]

That tie is delicious, hbk!

Another thing to keep in mind when judging the date of a tie based on whether or not it was made with "resilient construction" is that cheaper ties from the 30s, 40s etc. may have been sewn by plain machine to reduce production costs. The loose stitch of the resilient construction must be done by hand or by a special machine. I have several ties I believe are not from before the "age of the resilient construction" that have been sewn by lockstitch machine.

 

[herringbonekid]

more crochets:

the only label:

the blue band below had a print which has faded out. looks like 'Royal' something:

 

[herringbonekid]

this one is very small. only 1 3/4" wide and 46" long. probably mid teens:

 

[Dinerman]

 

[John Galt]

Anyone else bid on the L. Greentree 1890's ties on the 'Bay this weekend? I lost, but will share pics:











I think I will ask my aunt (a seamstress) to duplicate a few of these from the photos.

 

[ernesto]

I m not sure about the age of that tie . Could it be before 1930s?

Do bow ties also count? They are definitivey old.

 

[Dinerman]

Those tabs on the back of the bow ties go over collar studs on detachable collar shirts.

Here's another from this era.

 

[DamianM]

So brocades came in late and are a sign of later times?
Does silk selvedge= older?

 

[DamianM]

I have the same one in reds. Sorry have to iron it.

Great colors

early silk polka dots

amoebas?

 

[Two Types]

Damian - those are fantastic. I love the polka-dots!

 

[DamianM]

Damian - those are fantastic. I love the polka-dots!

I got them from a huge score of 90 neckties consisting of mostly 30s and 20s neckties

 

[Baron Kurtz]

I wouldn't count on either of these holding true, but the selvedge might be closer to the truth than the one about brocades.

So brocades came in late and are a sign of later times?
Does silk selvedge= older?

 

[Nick D]

Couple recent finds. The diamond tie is cut on the straight of the grain, not the bias. The satin neck strip has embossing, but all I've managed to decipher is 'Detroit', I need to look at it in better light.