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Those of us of a certain age know this guy. Mike Brito was a scout for the Dodgers and was always right behind home p!ate with his radar ***, cigar, and Panama hat whenever LA was on the idiot box.

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Here's an oldie. A hat worn by Ernst Casimir van Nassau-Dietz. He was related to the Van Nassau family, who later became the Dutch Royal family. Both a competent fieldmarshall and stadhouder (governor) of Friesland. He met his end though at the siege of Roermond in 1632 when a Spanish bullit hit both him and his hat. It is quite obvious where. His relatives kept the hat as a keepsake. It can now be found in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam.
So this is what a 17th century hat looked like.

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Portrait of its wearer (when he was still in good health).
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And a depiction of his demise. The hat is shown lower right. It is unclear if the artist took liberties in the choice of the colour of the hat or if the real thing lost its colour over the centuries.

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Here's an oldie. A hat worn by Ernst Casimir van Nassau-Dietz. He was related to the Van Nassau family, who later became the Dutch Royal family. Both a competent fieldmarshall and stadhouder (governor) of Friesland. He met his end though at the siege of Roermond in 1632 when a Spanish bullit hit both him and his hat. It is quite obvious where. His relatives kept the hat as a keepsake. It can now be found in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam.
So this is what a 17th century hat looked like.

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Portrait of its wearer (when he was still in good health).
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And a depiction of his demise. The hat is shown lower right. It is unclear of the artist took liberties in the choice of the colour of the hat or if the real thing lost its colour over the centuries.

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These Dutch hats survived, in a sense, among the old European Jewish community in Jerusalem up through the late 20th century. When Jerusalem was ruled by the Turks, Jews wanting to go to Jerusalem would dress like Dutch nobility showing as if they were wealthy Europeans and not poor Jews who would then be given access to the city by the authorities. The very wide brimmed style of these hats survived within this Jerusalem community, being produced by Tonak in Czechia as late as 2000 or so. To my (rather limited) knowledge, they are no longer worn or produced.
 
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These Dutch hats survived, in a sense, among the old European Jewish community in Jerusalem up through the late 20th century. When Jerusalem was ruled by the Turks, Jews wanting to go to Jerusalem would dress like Dutch nobility showing as if they were wealthy Europeans and not poor Jews who would then be given access to the city by the authorities. The very wide brimmed style of these hats survived within this Jerusalem community, being produced by Tonak in Czechia as late as 2000 or so. To my (rather limited) knowledge, they are no longer worn or produced.
That is some cool information, Jeff. Didn't know that. It is true though that the 17th century, the Dutch golden age, was known for its diversity in population and religion. Especially in Amsterdam where they did not much care what you believed in as long as it was good for or at least didn't impede business. It had a large Jewish community at the time and a good number of them were succesful and fit right in with the rest of the well to do burgers. Makes sense they adopted the clothing and hat styles.
 

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Just to be clear, this is not Don King. It's actor Ving Rhames. Named after retired NBC journalist Irving R. Levine, his nickname "Ving" was given to him by his one-time roommate Stanley Tucci. For anyone who's curious, he's the only actor besides Tom Cruise who's in all of the Mission Impossible movies.
Looking again at the photo I realise the error. Do you think that I could "do" a Prince Andrew and claim it a fake?
 
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Just to be clear, this is not Don King. It's actor Ving Rhames. Named after retired NBC journalist Irving R. Levine, his nickname "Ving" was given to him by his one-time roommate Stanley Tucci. For anyone who's curious, he's the only actor besides Tom Cruise who's in all of the Mission Impossible movies.

I thought it was George Bush.

From the movie "Striptease."

Chico:
Are you Ms. Grant?
Erin Grant:
[sarcastically]
No, I'm Barbara Bush.
Chico:
[to Shad]
And you are?
Shad (Ving Rhames):
George Bush.
 
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In the thread concerning myths about JB Stetson a picture of a seventeenth century hat was posted. https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...-the-pikes-peak-gold-rush.120829/post-3219786

It's this hat below. The point being how closely it resembles a western and there's nothing new under the sun. So Stetson didn't invent the wide brimmed tall crowned hat.
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However as coincidence would have it, this hat once belonged to Hendrik Casimir I van Nassau Dietz. Sound vaguely familiar? Well, I've posted his fathers' hat in this same thread just a few posts above this one here:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/show-us-their-hats.77182/post-3216696

Hendrik Casimir I followed in his fathers' footsteps as Stadhouder (Governor) of Friesland, Drenthe and Groningen after his father died in 1632 at the siege of Roermond. Hendrik was 20 at the time. He was both a capable governor and military leader.
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Taking cover however was not a skill that ran in the family, as he was in turn wounded at the siege of Hulst in 1640 and died shortly after, aged just 28. We can be glad the family hated throwing things away as his hat was also saved. What are the odds, eh?
 

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