1. Lounge Update headed your way. Check the thread in the Observation Bar. If you don't like the light style, click the light bulb at the top-right of your screen.

Terms Which Have Disappeared

Discussion in 'The Golden Era' started by KILO NOVEMBER, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. Zombie_61

    Zombie_61 I'll Lock Up

    There are quite a few people who are "equine enthusiasts" in and around our neighborhood as well; a surprisingly large number considering we're in a suburb that's only about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles. When I was growing up here there was a woman on our street who had stables and a training ring on her property. She babysat me on occasion, so I was maybe 4 or 5 years old (as best I can recall) the first time I rode...well, "rode" is an overstatement; "sat on" a horse would be more accurate.
     
    scottyrocks likes this.
  2. ChrisB

    ChrisB One of the Regulars

    Messages:
    297
    Location:
    The Hills of the Chankly Bore
    She was only the stable man’s daughter, but all the horsemen new ‘er.
     
    Zombie_61 and tonyb like this.
  3. Haversack

    Haversack Practically Family

    Messages:
    912
    Location:
    Clipperton Island
    When I was in the service, a few of us were sitting around shooting the bull. We realized that there were several expressions that referred to the excrement of different animals and used with different meanings. As best I remember, the taxonomy was as follows:

    Apes**t - noun. Meaning - ‘violently crazy’. e.g. ‘going apes**t’

    Bats**t - noun. Meaning - ‘crazy’ - Less violent than apes**t, but more extreme.

    Bulls**t - noun, verb, adjective. Meaning - 1. ‘Lies, falsehoods’. 2. ‘Tall tales’. 3. ‘Informal banter’. 4. The telling of #s 1-3. Usually pejorative but can also used admiringly. e.g. ‘bulls**t artist’

    Chickens**t - noun, adjective. Meaning - ‘Contemptible pettiness’

    Horses**t - noun. Meaning - ‘out-and-out lie, utter falsehood’. As a noun, similar to bulls**t but without any positive connotations.

    Rats**t - adjective, occasionally noun. Meaning - ‘dirty, foul, disgusting’. e.g. ‘a rats**t tasking’.

    How far back these expressions and meanings go, I do not know. I suspect that bats**t only goes back to the mid-1960s and the tv show Batman.

    One euphemism I have heard is 'Horse maneuvers'.
     
    Just Jim, Zombie_61 and Trenchfriend like this.
  4. LizzieMaine

    LizzieMaine Bartender

    "You can't make chicken salad from chicken s**t." -- my grandmother.
     
    Zombie_61 likes this.
  5. I remember one of my ex-fiancé's grandmother telling me that when she was a teenager in the 20s, "s**t" was the popular swear word among the young generation. She didn't know why, but it was very trendy among the Era's young and hip.
     
  6. scottyrocks

    scottyrocks I'll Lock Up

    Messages:
    7,556
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    I also remember this having a second meaning, as varying levels of cowardice.
     
    tonyb and Zombie_61 like this.
  7. Zombie_61

    Zombie_61 I'll Lock Up

    It appears no one really knows exactly when or where the term came into use, but several websites mention it's use in the military at some point during the 1950s as an alternate form of "bulls**t" and used in the same context.
     
  8. Inkstainedwretch

    Inkstainedwretch Practically Family

    Messages:
    942
    Location:
    United States
    An expression I hear almost daily in this paranoid and conspiracy-obsessed time is "connect the dots." Yet I haven't seen a connect-the-dots puzzle in many years. Do you think most of the people who use the expression even know what it came from?
     
    vitanola and tonyb like this.
  9. Just Jim

    Just Jim One of the Regulars

    Kids still do connect-the-dots in preschool and early elementary years in school.
     
    scottyrocks likes this.
  10. Inkstainedwretch

    Inkstainedwretch Practically Family

    Messages:
    942
    Location:
    United States
    Maybe that's why I haven't seen any in a while. Quite a few years since elementary school.
     
    scottyrocks likes this.
  11. tonyb

    tonyb Vendor

    Messages:
    6,903
    Location:
    My mother's basement
    In recent years I've heard the "s" word used to connote something akin to "exceptionally favorable," as in "now there's the s***!"
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2018
    Zombie_61 and vitanola like this.
  12. tonyb

    tonyb Vendor

    Messages:
    6,903
    Location:
    My mother's basement
    I still use "shindig," not to mean a party, necessarily, but any beyond-the-everyday gathering of more than a few people.
     
    Zombie_61 and vitanola like this.
  13. LizzieMaine

    LizzieMaine Bartender

    The equivalent in the Era was to say that something is "the nuts." Or "the nertz" if you're a collegian in 1935.
     
    vitanola likes this.
  14. tonyb

    tonyb Vendor

    Messages:
    6,903
    Location:
    My mother's basement
    Was it in any way an allusion to male gonads? Or is it just coincidental that "nuts" had multiple and mutually exclusive slang meanings?

    BTW, I've also in recent years heard "tits" to mean the same thing, as in, "if you expect to get top dollar for that place, it had better be tits."
     
  15. LizzieMaine

    LizzieMaine Bartender

    "Nuts" as a reference to boy-bubbles goes back to the seventeenth century, so I suspect that was the implication of "it's the nuts." The most vital parts, the best bits, so to speak. The radio networks and the Breen Office understood it to mean that when they banned both that phrase and the "nertz" variation.

    "The cat's nuts" is another version that was popular in the early 20th Century, later minced to "the cat's meow." My mother often refers to anything of excelling quality as "the cat's arse," which would seem to be another variation on the theme.
     
    vitanola and Zombie_61 like this.
  16. tonyb

    tonyb Vendor

    Messages:
    6,903
    Location:
    My mother's basement
    So how about "nuts" or "nutty" to mean insane, or at least irrational or ill-conceived?
     
  17. tonyb

    tonyb Vendor

    Messages:
    6,903
    Location:
    My mother's basement
    It just now occurs to me that "tits" was one of George Carlin's seven words you can't say on television. But that's been, like, 45 years ago. I do believe its status as a "dirty" word has slipped some since. But then, I doubt it always was a taboo word but it assumed that status during one of those occasional moments of anti-sex hysteria we go through every now and then. I took it to be an alternate pronunciation of "teats."
     
    scottyrocks likes this.
  18. LizzieMaine

    LizzieMaine Bartender

    I suspect that's related to the use of "nut" to refer to the head -- "off one's nut" was current in the mid-19th Century, and is probably older.

    As for "tit," that wasn't considered lewd or vulgar in the circles in which I was raised -- in fact, the container with which babies were nursed was universally known, by adults and kids alike, as a "titty bottle."
     
    vitanola likes this.
  19. 3fingers

    3fingers Practically Family

    Messages:
    975
    Location:
    Illinois
    Does anybody still give the baby a sugar tit?
    This was also used as an insult for older children who were whining about something.
    "Do we need to get you a sugar tit?"
     
  20. LizzieMaine

    LizzieMaine Bartender

    In our local dialect that item was known as a "fuddy." "Go suck a fuddy!" was a popular schoolyard malediction.
     
    vitanola and 3fingers like this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.