The Bowler or Derby Hat

Discussion in 'Hats' started by carter, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. Blare

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    No house rules broken on this one. Wonderful hat Alan
     
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  3. Mean Eyed Matt

    Mean Eyed Matt Practically Family

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    New arrival: The Beautiful Gardener comes from France - including the original box.
    Bowler/Derby resp. Chapeau melon - certainly sourced from a larger hat factory
    - unfortunately no manufacturer's label - but sold by La Belle Jardinière in Bordeaux.
    These were a large French clothing department stores' chain from Paris
    with many branches in Lyon, Marseille, Bordeaux, Nancy etc.
    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/À_la_Belle_Jardinière

    The age? My guess is (late) 1930s.
    In any case, the felt and the workmanship are really beautiful.

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  4. Blare

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    Quite nice
     
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  5. Rmccamey

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    Very nice, you are getting my HAS all stirred up!

     
  6. Steve1857

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    Superb find, Matt. Love the label on the box.

     
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  7. steur

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    Beautiful hat. Nice to find them in such a good condition, and with the box as well.
     
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  8. steur

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    Bought this on on commission so to speak. I knew it wasn't my size. Sometimes you get lucky with hats like that, but not this time, so it will go to a trusted collection.
    Stetson Standard Quality bowler. Brim at 5,3cm and crown at about 13cm (eyeballing it a bit here). Lovely hand to the felt and finishing is top notch. Only thing is some foxing on the liner. From what I gather early to mid-thirties. Imported by Sools of Paris.

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  9. Steve1857

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    It just looks better and better, Stefan. The new, lucky custodian is certainly most grateful for your kind efforts :)

     
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  10. Rmccamey

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    Looks perfect but for the liner and that is a nit, at best. An import to Paris turns it into a real conversation piece. Great find, Stefan.

     
  11. steur

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    Thanks, gentlemen. Very gratifying to find hats like these.
     
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  12. mayserwegener

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    Stefan, Fantastic Stiff Felt! Also a pre WWII French Market Stetson. Congrats!
     
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  13. Mean Eyed Matt

    Mean Eyed Matt Practically Family

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    Beautiful J. A. Seidl Melone/bowler made of wool felt without size tag
    - I estimate it to be from the 30s, but I have little experience.
    The condition is very good except for a few minor quirks!
    However, it has little to contribute to the discussion about labels
    and manufacture that Steve hasn't already said.
    As a wool felt, it comes from a different source than the fur felts
    and the only label it has is one of the simple paper labels known
    from many pre-war hats with a number on it.
    Same linner-logo as in my other J. A. Seidl (fur felt) bowler.

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  14. Blare

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    A real nice looking bowler.
     
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  15. Rmccamey

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    Looks mighty nice whatever material it is.

     
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  16. JJ Katz

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    The bowler worn here is alight weight model with a series of pinholes at the top of eh crown (for ventilation, I assume).
    A vintage find

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  17. Steve1857

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    Nice looking Bowler JJ. Cool matching outfit, too.
    Yes, the"pinholes" are ventilation holes. Can you take and post more photos of the hat inside and out, plus any labels under the sweatband?

     
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  18. steur

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    Very nice. Like Steve said: more!
     
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  19. JJ Katz

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    Will do.
     
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  20. Rmccamey

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    Smashing, sir!

     
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