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Blare

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House rules are strict on adding new black derbies... has to be clean, has to fit and it has to have a third thing of some sort. Finding a good candidate at the flea market usually qualifies if the price is fair. Here is an early depression era Select Quality (LOT66XX) sold at Buffalo's storied The Kleinhans - a hat that never left town. Comfort Fit sweatband angles away from the hat body at its turned edge and gives a little suspension spring - it is very comfortable to wear. Wind cord button is present and sewn to the hat. The ends of the cord remain but the cord itself was cut at some point.

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No house rules broken on this one. Wonderful hat Alan
 

Mean Eyed Matt

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New arrival: The Beautiful Gardener comes from France - including the original box.
Bowler/Derby resp. Chapeau melon - certainly sourced from a larger hat factory
- unfortunately no manufacturer's label - but sold by La Belle Jardinière in Bordeaux.
These were a large French clothing department stores' chain from Paris
with many branches in Lyon, Marseille, Bordeaux, Nancy etc.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/À_la_Belle_Jardinière

The age? My guess is (late) 1930s.
In any case, the felt and the workmanship are really beautiful.

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Blare

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New arrival: The Beautiful Gardener comes from France - including the original box.
Bowler/Derby resp. Chapeau melon - certainly sourced from a larger hat factory
- unfortunately no manufacturer's label - but sold by La Belle Jardinière in Bordeaux.
These were a large French clothing department stores' chain from Paris
with many branches in Lyon, Marseille, Bordeaux, Nancy etc.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/À_la_Belle_Jardinière

The age? My guess is (late) 1930s.
In any case, the felt and the workmanship are really beautiful.

41327429uw.jpg

41330430uq.jpg

41327426ar.jpg

41327425mh.jpg

41327424qm.jpg

41327423nh.jpg

41327422fs.jpg

41327420ti.jpg

41327418hy.jpg

41327419vn.jpg

41327417qv.jpg

41327415sg.jpg

41327413dw.jpg
Quite nice
 

Rmccamey

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Very nice, you are getting my HAS all stirred up!

New arrival: The Beautiful Gardener comes from France - including the original box.
Bowler/Derby resp. Chapeau melon - certainly sourced from a larger hat factory
- unfortunately no manufacturer's label - but sold by La Belle Jardinière in Bordeaux.
These were a large French clothing department stores' chain from Paris
with many branches in Lyon, Marseille, Bordeaux, Nancy etc.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/À_la_Belle_Jardinière

The age? My guess is (late) 1930s.
In any case, the felt and the workmanship are really beautiful.

41327429uw.jpg

41330430uq.jpg

41327426ar.jpg

41327425mh.jpg

41327424qm.jpg

41327423nh.jpg

41327422fs.jpg

41327420ti.jpg

41327418hy.jpg

41327419vn.jpg

41327417qv.jpg

41327415sg.jpg

41327413dw.jpg
 

Steve1857

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Superb find, Matt. Love the label on the box.

New arrival: The Beautiful Gardener comes from France - including the original box.
Bowler/Derby resp. Chapeau melon - certainly sourced from a larger hat factory
- unfortunately no manufacturer's label - but sold by La Belle Jardinière in Bordeaux.
These were a large French clothing department stores' chain from Paris
with many branches in Lyon, Marseille, Bordeaux, Nancy etc.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/À_la_Belle_Jardinière

The age? My guess is (late) 1930s.
In any case, the felt and the workmanship are really beautiful.

41327429uw.jpg

41330430uq.jpg

41327426ar.jpg

41327425mh.jpg

41327424qm.jpg

41327423nh.jpg

41327422fs.jpg

41327420ti.jpg

41327418hy.jpg

41327419vn.jpg

41327417qv.jpg

41327415sg.jpg

41327413dw.jpg
 
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New arrival: The Beautiful Gardener comes from France - including the original box.
Bowler/Derby resp. Chapeau melon - certainly sourced from a larger hat factory
- unfortunately no manufacturer's label - but sold by La Belle Jardinière in Bordeaux.
These were a large French clothing department stores' chain from Paris
with many branches in Lyon, Marseille, Bordeaux, Nancy etc.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/À_la_Belle_Jardinière

The age? My guess is (late) 1930s.
In any case, the felt and the workmanship are really beautiful.

41327429uw.jpg

41330430uq.jpg

41327426ar.jpg

41327425mh.jpg

41327424qm.jpg

41327423nh.jpg

41327422fs.jpg

41327420ti.jpg

41327418hy.jpg

41327419vn.jpg

41327417qv.jpg

41327415sg.jpg

41327413dw.jpg
Beautiful hat. Nice to find them in such a good condition, and with the box as well.
 
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Bought this on on commission so to speak. I knew it wasn't my size. Sometimes you get lucky with hats like that, but not this time, so it will go to a trusted collection.
Stetson Standard Quality bowler. Brim at 5,3cm and crown at about 13cm (eyeballing it a bit here). Lovely hand to the felt and finishing is top notch. Only thing is some foxing on the liner. From what I gather early to mid-thirties. Imported by Sools of Paris.

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Steve1857

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It just looks better and better, Stefan. The new, lucky custodian is certainly most grateful for your kind efforts :)

Bought this on on commission so to speak. I knew it wasn't my size. Sometimes you get lucky with hats like that, but not this time, so it will go to a trusted collection.
Stetson Standard Quality bowler. Brim at 5,3cm and crown at about 13cm (eyeballing it a bit here). Lovely hand to the felt and finishing is top notch. Only thing is some foxing on the liner. From what I gather early to mid-thirties. Imported by Sools of Paris.

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Rmccamey

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Looks perfect but for the liner and that is a nit, at best. An import to Paris turns it into a real conversation piece. Great find, Stefan.

Bought this on on commission so to speak. I knew it wasn't my size. Sometimes you get lucky with hats like that, but not this time, so it will go to a trusted collection.
Stetson Standard Quality bowler. Brim at 5,3cm and crown at about 13cm (eyeballing it a bit here). Lovely hand to the felt and finishing is top notch. Only thing is some foxing on the liner. From what I gather early to mid-thirties. Imported by Sools of Paris.

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Bought this on on commission so to speak. I knew it wasn't my size. Sometimes you get lucky with hats like that, but not this time, so it will go to a trusted collection.
Stetson Standard Quality bowler. Brim at 5,3cm and crown at about 13cm (eyeballing it a bit here). Lovely hand to the felt and finishing is top notch. Only thing is some foxing on the liner. From what I gather early to mid-thirties. Imported by Sools of Paris.

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Stefan, Fantastic Stiff Felt! Also a pre WWII French Market Stetson. Congrats!
 

Mean Eyed Matt

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Beautiful J. A. Seidl Melone/bowler made of wool felt without size tag
- I estimate it to be from the 30s, but I have little experience.
The condition is very good except for a few minor quirks!
However, it has little to contribute to the discussion about labels
and manufacture that Steve hasn't already said.
As a wool felt, it comes from a different source than the fur felts
and the only label it has is one of the simple paper labels known
from many pre-war hats with a number on it.
Same linner-logo as in my other J. A. Seidl (fur felt) bowler.

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Beautiful J. A. Seidl Melone/bowler made of wool felt without size tag
- I estimate it to be from the 30s, but I have little experience.
The condition is very good except for a few minor quirks!
However, it has little to contribute to the discussion about labels
and manufacture that Steve hasn't already said.
As a wool felt, it comes from a different source than the fur felts
and the only label it has is one of the simple paper labels known
from many pre-war hats with a number on it.
Same linner-logo as in my other J. A. Seidl (fur felt) bowler.

41384082zp.jpg

41384081hh.jpg

41384080pq.jpg

41384079km.jpg

41384078wv.jpg

41384077re.jpg

41384076dl.jpg

41384075sb.jpg

41384074op.jpg
A real nice looking bowler.
 

Rmccamey

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Looks mighty nice whatever material it is.

Beautiful J. A. Seidl Melone/bowler made of wool felt without size tag
- I estimate it to be from the 30s, but I have little experience.
The condition is very good except for a few minor quirks!
However, it has little to contribute to the discussion about labels
and manufacture that Steve hasn't already said.
As a wool felt, it comes from a different source than the fur felts
and the only label it has is one of the simple paper labels known
from many pre-war hats with a number on it.
Same linner-logo as in my other J. A. Seidl (fur felt) bowler.

41384082zp.jpg

41384081hh.jpg

41384080pq.jpg

41384079km.jpg

41384078wv.jpg

41384077re.jpg

41384076dl.jpg

41384075sb.jpg

41384074op.jpg
 
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