The Bowler or Derby Hat

Discussion in 'Hats' started by carter, Oct 3, 2008.


  1. That looks a lot like Churchill's bowler. The higher flat top crown is a style that they call a Cambridge bowler if I remember correctly. Churchill was a well known cambridge style bowler wearer.
    The problem I have with modern bowlers is simple really. They do not know how to get a tight roll on the edge of the brim. Vintage bowlers had a very tight curl to the brim edge and the brim itself was not flat. There should be some bow to it. I know I am picky but I like a bowler that is the bowler style and classically should look the same if they want to call it a bowler.
    I have a couple in my stable that I think illustrate my point.
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    Notice the tight brim curl that curls in so tight that it is nearly at a 180 degree angle to the brim proper.

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    From the side you can see the upward bow in the brim.

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    One of my favorites is the wide brim bowler. These are not very common at all, however, they would have been the more utilitarian when it comes to keeping the sun out of your eyes. Probably what you see Bat Masterson Wearing in that picture.

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    Something fairly unusual to see is the very unusual Amish bowler. it is utilitarian and quite stiff.

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    This one is quite old and has the adjustable sweatband.

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    All the way around.

    I only know of one modern Bowler maker who is still making bowlers the old fashioned way. He makes the brims correctly and even has the option of making one a Cambridge Bowler. The problem is that I can't remember his name. :eusa_doh: He is listed in Debbie Henderson's book Hat Talk though.
    Lastly, a famous bowler wearer that many do not associate the bowler with:
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  2. carter

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    Nope. Big Man was all over this one. lol lol lol
    I was on a mission to school.
    Besides, I know an Odd Job when I see one. ;)
    My age may be in question but my eyesight is just ducky. :)

    jamespowers, Thanks for posting those shots. Don't believe I've seen a picture of William Bonney wearing a derby before. Was this before Lincoln County?
     
  3. Far before Lincoln County. The owner of said picture is in the process of selling the picture with the back story. However, I gathered enough on my own to save me the purchase price.;) :p It was a heretofor unknown picture of Bonney. Before the reverse negative ugly picture of him with the rifle. I understand few people lived long enough to get a good picture of him. I mean if you shoot a man for snoring......:eek:
     
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    Yeah, we only threw combat boots at guys for snoring. One in particular. But that's a story for another thread.

    Can you share the backstory withn us?
     
  5. indycop

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    But Churchill's bowler couldn't take your head off like Oddjob's.;)
    I like the widebrim bowler the best.
     
  6. So do I but you have to find them first. :eusa_doh: [huh]
    Oddjob's bowler is the real bowler that could keep gamekeepers safe against poachers---it might even knock off a few. Forget about trying to poach game on that estate. :eek: :p
     
  7. I could but it would cost you. ;) :p
     
  8. carter

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    Indycop made me do it !

    Keira Knightley received her derby from Chanel. Has anyone noticed that she has long fingers and nice nails? :)

    She sent our buddy this tasteful photo which he has graciously agreed to share with us. ;) :)


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  9. Lefty

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    right click
    save as...
    oh, that part is already filled in. ;)
     
  10. indycop

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    If you click on the bottle she puts the hat on...;)

    Um carter you can't blame me I believe thats your username with that post not mine.:p :D
     
  11. Lefty

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    Not the way that I expected it to turn out.:p
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  12. carter

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    Maybe you left clicked when you should have right clicked. Or vice versa. [huh] :)
     
  13. indycop

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    Did you say you know of a place that has them?
     
  14. indycop

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    shakeshead :coffee: lol
     
  15. indycop

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    Ok I officially endorse Bowlers on women.
     
  16. Lefty

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    I think you're just endorsing sexy women under hats, which I'll second.
     
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  17. I know of a guy who can make you one. He is the same one that does the Cambridge bowlers and the ones with the correct brim curl. I can't find my book and I can't remember the guy's name. Anyone out there with a Hat Talk book find the picture with the guy holding two bowlers. That's him. :D
     
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    :eusa_doh: Where's Rusty with that wanted poster?
     
  19. Brad Bowers

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    John McMicking (I just checked my copy of the book).

    This appears to be his contact info:

    John McMicking
    L&H HATS
    179 Melville Street
    Dundas, Ontario
    L9H 2A9
    Phone: (905) 627-7492

    Brad
     
  20. That's him! Thanks. His email address is:
    mcmicking@canada.com
     

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