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The Real Mccoy's Buco J-22 or J-24

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by markstachow, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. handymike

    handymike I'll Lock Up

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    I'm looking at a RMC on a Japanese site, and the 42 looks like it would fit me perfectly (I'm a 38).
     
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  2. ton312

    ton312 I'll Lock Up

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    Dang. So maybe those numbers are right. Man that's a full two sizes down from the tag! Although you could argue my Aero's are a full two up from the tag...in any event it's quite a beautiful jacket.
     
  3. dudewuttheheck

    dudewuttheheck One Too Many

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    Wow that is an incredibly undersized jacket! I just checked the measurements myself and almost couldn't believe it. My size 38 RMC A2, which is already a slimmed down version of an A2 has a larger chest than that size 42!
     
  4. christian-h

    christian-h New in Town

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    Drumroll...

    The jacket has arrived. It fits just the way I want it to.

    I will post some pictures when I can!

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  5. handymike

    handymike I'll Lock Up

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    Beautiful!
     
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  6. ton312

    ton312 I'll Lock Up

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    Well it's a good thing you like a perfect fit. Man that's sweet.
     
  7. Superfluous

    Superfluous My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Super nice!
     
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  8. red devil

    red devil One Too Many

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    Very nice fit! Congrats!
     
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  9. Bobby Peru

    Bobby Peru One of the Regulars

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    Good fit on you! I gave up looking at tag sizes on jackets, especially RM. I prefer to go by actual measurements of the specific jacket I am looking to get. I just went through this with a Steinbeck. I went off of the sizing on their website and even had a dear friend go to the Kyoto store and measure out a 40 and 42 for me. My measurements corresponded to their 42. When the jacket arrived it was too big. Too big as in the sleeves being at least 4” longer than what their own measurements for a 42 should have been. Shoulders too wide, etc. I switched to a 40 and it is one of my best fitting jackets.
     
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  10. red devil

    red devil One Too Many

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    Nothing beats trying the jackets on
     
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  11. Bobby Peru

    Bobby Peru One of the Regulars

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    Yes, I have learned that the hard way and it has not been an inexpensive lesson.
     
  12. Bobby Peru

    Bobby Peru One of the Regulars

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    The funny thing is that when it comes to zippers, I cannot stand ball chain pullers - the type that uses two chains connecting to one ball like what this jacket has. I hate it. This Steinbeck is a keeper but I am going to have to swap that puller for a matching period correct Talon bell puller. Something else that bugs me is the different branding on the zippers. Main zipper is ’Talon,’ and ball chain puller is ‘McCoy’s.’ Yes, I’m crazy that way. If anyone can recommend someone that can handle this job in the Los Angeles / SoCal area I’d appreciate a recommendation.
     
  13. timmbo

    timmbo New in Town

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    Sorry to bring this topic back from the dead, but I wanted to contribute to the discussion as I feel there may be some misinformation/confusion/discrepancy on this.

    From my understanding, the J-22 is wider and shorter than the J-24; this is based on online measurements, and also speaking to someone in the RMC London store. The J-24 in 42 fits me well in the chest and sleeves, although is too long in the body for my taste. Unfortunately they did not stock the J-22, but they suggested that one in a 40 would likely be comparable to the J-24 in 42, and the best fit for me (again, measurements available online would corroborate this).

    If anyone has any clarity on the matter, it might be helpful for others who find this topic as a resource!

    Cheers.
     
  14. christian-h

    christian-h New in Town

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    I can only speak for my J-22 and I was told to size down. I did not. There's no way a size 40 would have worked. I prefer a little extra room in the upper part (with correct shoulders, sleeve...) and a size 42 fits me great. I'm a 42 inch chest, 5,9. Sleeve lenght is perfect after creasing and I've probably lost around an inch after creasing. This is important and if the sleeves fits you perfect when new - the creasing will change that.


    Here's the e-mail from RMC about sizing.


    Hi Christian,


    Apologies for the late reply, we have been catching up on emails over the bank holiday weekend.

    In regards to which size J-22 you should go for the J-22 is quite boxy in the body and I think that the size one 42 would be too big for you in the chest. Unlike our other Buco models we stock, I would be more inclined to suggest a size 40 but as I’m sure you know with all leather jackets, you really do need to try to get a feel for them.
     
  15. timmbo

    timmbo New in Town

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    Thanks Christian. With the J-22, my guess (based on available measurements) is to go "true to size", i.e. if you're a 42" chest, go for the 42 - I'm typically a 40 in McCoy's (001XXJ Denim Jacket, 66 Nylon Down Vest, M-65), have a 40" chest, so would likely go for the 40 (although I am also 6', so the sleeves may come up slightly short).

    I'm surprised that the sleeve length of the 42 works well for you - given your height, I would have guessed they might come up long.
     
  16. Lebowski

    Lebowski Practically Family

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    Nice jacket and nice fit. And very nice floor!)
     
  17. christian-h

    christian-h New in Town

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    No worries, i'm glad if I can help you. What's your thoughts about the total lenght of the jacket?
    Thanks man! It took me 15 hours with an edge floor sander to get things right. The floor is finished with osmo hardwax oil.

    Here's a bonus picture on Alessandro Squarzi wearing a Real McCoy's J-22 (size 42 and sleeves shortened).

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    Picture from https://adamkatzsinding.com/alessandro-squarzi-milan-8/


     
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  18. timmbo

    timmbo New in Town

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    On you? If it were me, I’d like it to be 0.5-1” shorter in the body. Perhaps similar to you, I like to wear my trousers fairly “classic”, higher rise, sitting at the belly button/true waist - ideally, I’d like a jacket the ends at the bottom of the belt line. My Schott 519 and the J-24 I tried on all end about 1-1.5” below the bottom of the belt.
     
  19. Blackadder

    Blackadder One Too Many

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    The J-22 is just slightly bigger (more chest room) than the old J-24 with the green lining. The current J-24 is indeed slimmer than the old version with the green lining but also only marginally slimmer. So be careful with these marginal differences.
     
  20. edmond

    edmond Vendor

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    the real mccoy j24 size 44 i couldnt even freaking zip it up. and the sleeve is crazy long and body is covering my crotch well 1/3 of he way

    the size 40 of a j22 rmc fits me perfect sleeve and all


    the j22 for me fits a well muscular or a fatter guy than the j24
     

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