The School of Hard Knox

Discussion in 'Hats' started by Tony in Tarzana, May 12, 2007.

  1. 3A5F6F77-A563-4B79-8647-D99E745F5228.jpeg 12EE00C6-8E10-4896-B62A-562F5B9C4BF2.jpeg 711C96CB-2A14-482F-8CE4-7974606B8E48.jpeg 2DE569E7-7A45-45C3-9C83-7AD23814B58A.jpeg C9CEADA4-1F90-48F2-97A5-3B5081E3C4EE.jpeg 010E9BCF-10B4-46AE-A21C-B56BF1FAAA4F.jpeg D2783662-DB9D-4540-AEA6-261AD7ED2B3C.jpeg DA7658F6-9DD6-45DA-B49D-832C80099C39.jpeg 08C59088-9AB2-4C74-A56E-A5966A2AA59C.jpeg A great hat at a great price from a great guy...who could pass that up? This brown Knox Superfine homburg came to me from @NewJack and its every bit as nice as he said it was. Thin dense felt and in excellent condition. Thanks, Doc!
     
  2. michael78

    michael78 One of the Regulars

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    Gorgeous Hat, love the colour!,could this be from the 30s? with that nice sweatband etc
     
  3. I’ve been dabbling with derbies and found that like westerns the firm felt doesn’t conform well to my long oval head and I’m better going up in size. The problem is there aren’t a lot of vintage derbies in 7 3/4. I decided I’d be willing to compromise and go with a 7 6/8, but in the end all I could find was this 7 12/16. :)

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  4. Blare

    Blare I'll Lock Up

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    Now if you can just get them ovalized :)
     
  5. Hey, someone should copyright that! Ovalized Sixteenths...sounds catchy. :)


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  6. Rumad

    Rumad One Too Many

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    I love a Knox. Glad you finally “compromised” and got a bowler. I actually found mine a LONG time ago in upstate NY. It is my size but was round. The sweat was disintegrated so I shipped it off to Art for repair. Came back long oval and stayed that way. Pretty neat. I only wear it a few times a year, plentiful opportunity to re-round. MAN did that thing give me a headache when it was round!
     
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  7. Centaurus3200

    Centaurus3200 New in Town

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    What level and Era is a Knox hat that just says Knox custom? Meaning has no other model delineation. Are all Knox fedoras fur felt? Or there were some wool ones?
     
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  8. Bill Hughes

    Bill Hughes Call Me a Cab

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    The only Knox “custom” I’m familiar with is referring to “custom edge” which is a binding treatment. I’ve seen that on many 1950s hats. Not all Knox hats are fur felt. If you have questions about a particular hat, pictures would help greatly.
     
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  9. Centaurus3200

    Centaurus3200 New in Town

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    Here's two pics of the hat in question
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  10. Frunobulax

    Frunobulax

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    I'm going to take a stab and say 1960s based on style and the sweatband. Are there any other markings on the sweatband? I think the "Custom" designation may be because that model was produced exclusively for somebody like the Levine Hat Co., who for a short time had the exclusive rights to carry the brand.
     
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  11. Bill Hughes

    Bill Hughes Call Me a Cab

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  12. Centaurus3200

    Centaurus3200 New in Town

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    Thanks!

    My gut says to hold out for a twenty or similar.
     
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  13. Just Daniel

    Just Daniel One Too Many

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    A while back I looked for more specifics on the quantitative quality of these “Custom” level Knox hats. I did not find not much info on either the original cost or dates for this quality level, although it appears to be a later development for Knox.



     
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  14. Zombie_61

    Zombie_61 I'll Lock Up

    Really? Fraction jokes? Here? o_O



    :D
     
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  15. M Hatman

    M Hatman My Mail is Forwarded Here

    AND THEN......I find THIS!!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek:
    A mid-50's Knox Premier "WESTLITE"!!!!!!!!(OR Clone)
    As per mid-50's a little shorter crown at 5 1/4 inches BUT has a 2 7/8 brim!!! And sweet, sweet, sweet, dense, finely pounced thin creamy felt!!!!!! YUP, rivals my 7XCBOR of the same vintage......:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
    SOFTER crown, definitely softer brim.......I simply cannot stop petting it!!!!!!!!!
    WOW......I want one!!!!!! YOU want one......WE ALL should have one..........
    So, what the heck am I talking about?!?!?!?!?! "He wants one?!?!??!?!!?" YEP....I want one!!!!! THIS ONE does not fit......:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
    Here it is!
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    THIS IS ONE WONDERFUL HAT!!!!! BUT it will be moving on........it will be quite the surprise for a very good friend!!!!
     
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  16. Blare

    Blare I'll Lock Up

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    Beautiful find Mark.
     
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  17. M Hatman

    M Hatman My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Yep......just wish it fit me.........;)
     
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  18. Joel-Ruthie Simon

    Joel-Ruthie Simon New in Town

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    I have a Knox Twenty Custom Edge, Curious to find out the production year and model of the fedora. I think is a "Twenty" but not sure. These are the codes inside the hat: Oval: LO, To Duplicate: H 23749, Block 006, 5 1/2 Size: 7 1/4. (I believe the 5 1/4 is the crown size because that is what is measured at. Below are a couple of pictures. JESNYY@aol.com Thank you Happy Thanksgiving 2020, Stay safe.
     

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  19. Frunobulax

    Frunobulax

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    Same answer as in the other thread.

    This site is rife with information, and what you need to know is likely located within this thread. Happy hunting.
     
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  20. Posting in a single thread is usually sufficient. Same folks reading them and same answers given.

    Great hat. Hope you enjoy it.
     
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