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I attempted to get into that class every year but it was always filled up! Drats!Agreed!
Sign me up too. LOL
I attempted to get into that class every year but it was always filled up! Drats!Agreed!
Sign me up too. LOL
That was perhaps way too vague a generalization. I was referring more to certain aspects of the evolution of society. I am all for many of the technical advances, as well as, let's call it 'tolerances' of differences berween peoples. However, what I object to is in not only the way morals have degrdaded, but also the way that is celebrated by so many. Maybe that flies in the face of the tolerance I just mentioned. All I know is that there has to be a happier medium somewhere.
I've always believed that in many ways femininity was ultimately destroyed by feminism.
The thing is, what is essentially "feminine" about cooking or sewing, anyway? All you men eat, don't you? You all wear clothes? Knowing how to maintain your pants ought to be as important as knowing how to maintain your car. And a man who can't or won't cook is a spoiled mama's boy who needs to get over himself and grow up.
My wife enjoys the fire roaring on a cold night. She doesn't cut the firewood.
She drives her car everywhere. She doesn't change the oil or flat tires.
When I was in high school, I took cooking and sewing classes. it was fun, and luckily, it was where most of the girls were. Double win.
I don't care about labels. Some men do things typically done by women. My daughter went through fire academy when she wasted to be a paramedic/firefighter.
Luckily, pretty much everything is open for anyone who wants it today. Just make sure that when they bring back the draft that men & women are included...after all, national security is in the interest of men and women alike...
It's much easier to say to a child "Oh, no Suzie, you don't want to be a nurse. Be a doctor." than it is to actually raise the prestige of a traditionally female occupation, like nursing. And I think we encourage men away from these traditionally female occupations simply by furthering the idea that there is less value in being a nurse than being a doctor.
using the nurse/doctor thought, you might be not seeing that doctors make way more than nurses, so perhaps parents are just trying to get their children into the better paying job....
I don't know why being a stay at home wife and mother is so looked down upon. It's harder work than most jobs outside the home and requires your attention 24/7. It's one of the oldest, and should be one of the most respected life-choices.
My sister wants to stay at home and raise her family and I applaud her for that. You don't see many people wanting that choice anymore. In fact, I see more guys that want their wives to work and to stay home, themselves.
Indeed. They're more damaging to women (IMO) than any jackass men have ever been. See the way they only support "liberal" thinking women. They never came to support the likes of Sarah Palin or Condalisa Rice - this is not meant to be political, only an observation of the hypocrisy of the group. Spare yourself the visit.
Well, I didn't support them either. Supporting someone simply because they're a woman is as idiotic as not supporting someone because they are. And, again, it's yet another sign we're in fact more obsessed with such things in the modern era, not less.
I've had other women tell me that I'm wasting my talents by staying home. I've also had women, at cocktail parties and husband's company functions, ask me what I do, then just sneer, turn around and walk away when I say that I'm a stay-at-home mom.
I find that as well. Women judge other women's choices much more harshly than men. I don't understand it.
I would figure that educating women not only in general but specifically in all of those things that Home Economics does would be considered a help and not a hinderance. I think keeping them barefoot and in the kitchen would require much more ignorance than education but then I am a man.......
That's another thing people don't do anymore, and it kills me. I would go crazy if I didn't have hobbies.
Parenting is one those jobs that is sometimes looked at as being oh so easy by both people who do and don't have kids. It is arguably the most important job any one could have and yet so many people are woefully unprepared, and then often in denial regarding their abilities. Everyone should take a parenting class, if not a full course, as a requirement in high school. More people will become parents than chemists, that's for sure.
As an aside I just found this image in the NSW State Archives website. Home Economics class, Parramatta 1960 (nice to see the boys there too)
I think the role of a "Wife" is more than what is done as far as raising children.
Interesting that they have the boys all dressed as chefs, though - just so we know it's proper, manly cooking, not girly cookery. Reminds me of Star Trek - no, go with me on this.... It was a big, progressive thing to have a woman on the Enterprise - Uhura - on the bridge and everything. But you ever look at what exactly she did? Communications Officer..... essentially, she answered the phone, and when someone important called, she passed them onto the man, Kirk. The one time I remember her beaming down onto a planet as part of an away team, the first thing she did was pull out a tricorder or some such and begin making notes on what the men were talking about..... like a secretary. Of course, nothing much happens overnight, so these were baby steps and very progressive on what had gone before. I find it interesting to see, though, these intermediate steps along the way.
When I was growing up it was very normal to have a hobby, though perhaps they have become viewed as geeky since, what with the wide availability of other forms of entertainment online, on television, etc. I suppose fewer people have hobbies now as they can easily fill their time watching TV and whatever. I can't stand people who sneer at hobbies - they're as bad as those who get rid of television because they don't like it, and then feel the need to go around telling everyone else how superior and enlightened they are because they don't have a television. Unlike you. (Kinda remind me of the ex-drinkers who don't think anyone else should be allowed a drink because it took over their life). lol
I'm very pro-marriage, but I've never wanted children. I have no truck with this notion that still kicks around, and I have actually had said directly to me, that "there's no point in [me] getting married if don't want children". The mind boggles!
I can see a number of reasons why someone wouldn't know how to do the very basics, such as cook a good homemade meal or wash clothes correctly. And unfortunately, the vast majority of the reasons I can think of have nothing to do with coddling and are actually quite the opposite of having an over-comfortable life.
I don't see it as all that surprising. I'd think twice about critiquing a woman in a way that might be interpreted as sexist. Goes for ethnicity, race and religion too. There are simply some criticisms, however fair they may be, that can more easily be made by someone of the same category. I have an inbuilt kneejerk reaction that makes me think twice before ever critiquing the Roman Catholic Church, for example, as I grew up in Northern Ireland, within the 'Protestant' community.
The problem, I think, is that home economics was so heavily pushed as "for the girls", hence its rejection, when equality would really demand it be taught to both genders.
Interestingly enough, Roddenberry originally wanted to have a female as second in command. This was part of the original pilot that was proven to be too unpopular with the studios, although I can't remember if it was audience reaction or the studio, or both. He also wanted to have the women wear pants (similar uniforms as the men). Nichelle Nichols and the other female actresses wanted to wear short skirts to show off their legs. (She said this once in an interview I saw, it was very funny the way she put it lol.)
That just emphasizes your point that society is slow to change, but change happens.
I think you're right. But, speaking as a hobbyist, I just don't understand how TV can have the same effect. I have quite a few TV shows I enjoy watching, but they bore me after a while. It doesn't occupy my hands or, more importantly, my mind as well as knitting, cross stitch, dress making, or solving puzzles does. Additionally, watching TV isn't productive, and you don't get the gratifying feeling of having made something pleasing or useful. It saddens me that many people won't ever know that feeling.
I'm the same way. I don't tell people about my feelings about marriage, though, because the fact that I want to get married makes them think I'm a sad, insecure little girl, and the further fact that I don't want children makes them think I'm backward.
This reminded me of my great aunt. She always used to say that if you can read you can cook.
The problem with that is then nobody can comment on anything that they aren't directly involved with. In a homogeneous society it doesn't matter much but in a heterogeneous society it can be crippling.
Uh, :
Yeah, the guys are cooking and serving the girls, and perhaps acting as waiter as well...but...they will get a tip!
You know, this may come off as a touch arrogant, but I have yet to meet a girl who can cook better than I can. That said, I know a great number of young women who I have never had the pleasure of having a meal with, so I don't know about them. However, whenever any of my friends get together, I am the one who does the cooking.
Well, we already established that men are the best chefs........
I wouldn't let on that you can cook better than your significant other or you will have just signed up to do it for life. My father always warned me about helping out too much---how you start is how you end so if you start doing everything then you had better get used to doing everything.
I wouldn't mind being in charge of cooking as long she (should she ever come into my life) can take care of something else. There are lots of chores I would rather not do. Cooking, on the other hand, is fun.
Now that is getting wise.
If she enjoys ironing (it happens), we are golden.
Edit: I don't mind ironing, but I really just like having ironed shirts. (Unlike my shoe shining, which I enjoy the process)
I need to take cooking lessons from my mother. Nobody cooks like that woman.
You should ask your Mum if she has a favourite/family cookbook. My Mum had a book that was her Mothers & it's mine now - it's a treasured possession.