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I cleaned & conditioned the sweats & they are in good shape but I don't know how old these hats would be. The black one has a price tag sticker of $55.00.
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Western, anyone?
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For the Dry Gulch in Tanbark I'm considering a crease something like below. Only thing is it leaves a large rounded area in the back of the crown & so they usually put in a mule kick. I'm normally not a big fan of mule kicks.
Thinking of having this hatband beaded for it.
For the black Outlaw I'm considering something along the lines of these but I'm not sure I want to end up with a crown that tall. I think I would rather come up with a crease option to sink some of that crown.
What do you think?
For the Dry Gulch in Tanbark I'm considering a crease something like below. Only thing is it leaves a large rounded area in the back of the crown & so they usually put in a mule kick. I'm normally not a big fan of mule kicks.
Thinking of having this hatband beaded for it.
For the black Outlaw I'm considering something along the lines of these but I'm not sure I want to end up with a crown that tall. I think I would rather come up with a crease option to sink some of that crown.
What do you think?
Good looking Stagecoaches, Jack. Like you, I usually do something to bring the crown down a bi more. Most of mine usually end up in a Gus like crease. Can't wait to see what you do.
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I can always lay the rake angle down a little.
These are both by Staker & I think these hats are beautiful.
https://www.stakerhats.com/
I can always lay the rake angle down a little.
These are both by Staker & I think these hats are beautiful.
https://www.stakerhats.com/
I like those a lot. I bought an NOS Bailey 50X in black with 4" brim and a 6" OC a number of moths ago that I've never posted. Been trying to figure out what I want to do with it. That first Staker you posted is what I may go for.
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He calls it a Gus Style Buckaroo. 5-1/2" crown & 4" brim so the front is probably 4-1/4" to 4-1/2".
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The camera angle can make a difference & the crease is narrower than the one in this Rand but otherwise I think they are similar.
The camera angle can make a difference & the crease is narrower than the one in this Rand but otherwise I think they are similar.
I agree, though the Staker appears to have more cattleman like pinches. I like that Rand a lot and my Dorer —50 has a similar set up.
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The Stagecoach hat line existed between 1979 and 1982-1983.
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I tried the Staker Gus Buckaroo crease but my hat is blocked too straight & it didn't look right. The Gus Buckaroo takes more roundness.
I next tried this crease that Jaxon does but I put a mule kick in the back to take away some of the roundness & height. I'm really not a fan of the mule kick & if I end up using one it will be smaller than shown. Compare this idea to the Jaxon pic above. These creases are all done dry so I would get better definition with steam.
Then I tried this vintage crease from above. Can't remember but the hat above may belong to Vic. Hard to keep the dents in & the slope closed down narrow without using steam. I would raise the dents to try & take out the taper.
In either case I would probably go with a hatband in the 1-1/4" - 1-1/2" range which will eat up some of the height.
What do you guys think? I welcome your opinions.
I next tried this crease that Jaxon does but I put a mule kick in the back to take away some of the roundness & height. I'm really not a fan of the mule kick & if I end up using one it will be smaller than shown. Compare this idea to the Jaxon pic above. These creases are all done dry so I would get better definition with steam.
Then I tried this vintage crease from above. Can't remember but the hat above may belong to Vic. Hard to keep the dents in & the slope closed down narrow without using steam. I would raise the dents to try & take out the taper.
In either case I would probably go with a hatband in the 1-1/4" - 1-1/2" range which will eat up some of the height.
What do you guys think? I welcome your opinions.
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i think the second one, well defined would look cooler, but all i know about such hats i've learnt by reading your posts.
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LOL! You need to find a better authority on the subject matter!
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I think either of the two creases would look good, HJ. I have a couple of Resistols that I did both of those creases to. With the Montana Pinch I used the Mule Kick and it doesn't look bad. I think the Silverbelly would look good with the Gus Crease....
Here's my Resistol 3X with the Gus. I also curled up the brim in the front and gave it a downward swoop in the front and back.
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Resistol Stagecoach. Montana Pinch with mule kick
Here's my Resistol 3X with the Gus. I also curled up the brim in the front and gave it a downward swoop in the front and back.
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Resistol Stagecoach. Montana Pinch with mule kick
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Terry the Montana Pinch with a Mule Kick is just about an Oreana Crease . Both similar to the "My Darling Clementine" hat Fonda wore ...
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Thanks, Michael. Great flick. I always loved the hat which Fonda wore in that movie.
John Wayne wore one with that same crease in the "Three Godfathers" and also in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance".
I like everything about this hat. The brim, the crown, the crease, it all works together nicely.
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I think both are good but I prefer the second one.
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Thanks TJ, & I remember both of these from when you posted them up before. I really like your Montana Pinch & can only say it is obviously a different model of Stagecoach & blocked differently to get that nice rounded top of the crown, unless you reblocked it. I have a couple of things yet to try on mine, & something for the black one before I make my decision on what I'm going to do with them both.I think either of the two creases would look good, HJ. I have a couple of Resistols that I did both of those creases to. With the Montana Pinch I used the Mule Kick and it doesn't look bad. I think the Silverbelly would look good with the Gus Crease....
Here's my Resistol 3X with the Gus. I also curled up the brim in the front and gave it a downward swoop in the front and back.
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Resistol Stagecoach. Montana Pinch with mule kick
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The Stagecoach is a Turkey Creek. But, I did indeed reblock both of those hats on a straight sided block that has a rounded top. These Resistols have a lot of crown to move around. On top of that the original block shape has a good deal of taper. Trying a Gus crease with that much crown height and with the original block shape, it's probably going to taper up pretty noticeably. I was able to avoid the tapering by using the straighter block. If you don't want a lot of taper to the crown you may want to opt for the Montana Pinch. But it's going to be pretty tall.
Here's the open crown shape of the block I used
Much more straight sided than the original with a nice rounded top.
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HJ, you'd rock a high crease pinch IMO. My Carmack came that way (he called it a mesa pinch) and with more brim. I've since trimmed the brim and telescoped the crown down but it worked great when I had longer hair and a full beard I think.
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I found the old pics. All in all it was a much better hat in its original form, but after a haircut, I shave, and some weight loss for me, the hat just dwarfed me. I think you would wear the crease well if you wanted to.
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