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Western, anyone?

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VoodooSan

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An hour-long drive out into the farmlands last weekend hooked me up with a nice lady disposing of some family estate goods. I came away with a New West Bailey, and so far I have no clue as to a model name. It’s a handsome hat, with nothing on the band but New West from Bailey, and the name of some long-gone store in Wyoming. The stock braided-leather hatband was nice enough, except it fastened together with the most hideous yellow-metal "bra-clasp" imaginable. A 7/8” horsehair was ordered and has taken its place. A very pretty drive resulting in the acquisition of a nice, if unspectacular, vintage western.

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A few weeks ago I received an RM Williams (Akubra) "Thoroughbred"(not the new one) which I posted earlier in the thread...... While I like it, it needed a good horsehair band (which I added), but I was still unsure. Looked to disproportional and tapered.
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THEN I decided to entirely re-block the hat on a 51 block. I did like it open crown.....but I like it even more now with a simple center crease. So it will stay like this for a while.........
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What are we if we don't keep "tweaking" our hats......;)
 

Thundercolt

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What style of hat is this?
Would you call it a Flat Top Bowler (I.e. Cambridge Bowler) or a Top Hat? What do you think?

Here are the specifics:
Maker: TP&H Trading Co. (Dobbs box just for display)
Style: Flat top, sides curved up, with pencil curl brim
Dimensions: 5 ¼” crown with a 3” brim
Hat Band: Black, 9 ligne, grosgrain crown ribbon with 5” bow
Lining: Heavy weight cotton
Sweatband: 2 ½ " black enameled leather, stitched at 8 to the inch
Felt: 100% beaver felt

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Rmccamey

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Some of those who gravitate toward the Old Tyme hats might have a model or style name. It doesn't really fit the pattern typical of Cambridge bowlers or top hats. It might be something akin to a Coach hat (a short top hat), but, IMO, that's also a stretch.
What style of hat is this?
Would you call it a Flat Top Bowler (I.e. Cambridge Bowler) or a Top Hat? What do you think?

Here are the specifics:
Maker: TP&H Trading Co. (Dobbs box just for display)
Style: Flat top, sides curved up, with pencil curl brim
Dimensions: 5 ¼” crown with a 3” brim
Hat Band: Black, 9 ligne, grosgrain crown ribbon with 5” bow
Lining: Heavy weight cotton
Sweatband: 2 ½ " black enameled leather, stitched at 8 to the inch
Felt: 100% beaver felt

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Rmccamey

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I like it. The simple center crease is one of my favorite styles. 20231117_174313.jpg 20230514_163928.jpg
A few weeks ago I received an RM Williams (Akubra) "Thoroughbred"(not the new one) which I posted earlier in the thread...... While I like it, it needed a good horsehair band (which I added), but I was still unsure. Looked to disproportional and tapered.
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THEN I decided to entirely re-block the hat on a 51 block. I did like it open crown.....but I like it even more now with a simple center crease. So it will stay like this for a while.........
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What are we if we don't keep "tweaking" our hats......;)
 
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AWESOME effects, HJ.
Thanks but it’s all the work of an app converting a pic.

The hat is an Akubra Territory I made to look like a planters hat. David Carradine wore something similar in the movie but his was a BE brim turned down. A few yrs ago a planters hat owned by a CSA General & worn thru the war came up for auction. It ultimately ended up being won by a museum. I sort of modeled mine somewhat like it.

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Location
vancouver, canada
Early 80s Stetson Winner, in camel color. A little banged up in shipping, so all I've done so far is get things un-bent. I'm thinking maybe a little more downturn to the brim, but not certain yet. This little guy had an adventure getting to me. From a local P.O. in North Dakota, to Fargo. Then just "in transit" for 6 days, until it appeared in Portland. Say, wha'? Then disappeared again for 9 more days before arriving in Denver. Lingered there for two days, then "in transit" again. Finally landed on my doorstep 19 days after USPS took possession of it. o_O
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It was collecting Air Miles!
 

Thundercolt

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MN
Some of those who gravitate toward the Old Tyme hats might have a model or style name. It doesn't really fit the pattern typical of Cambridge bowlers or top hats. It might be something akin to a Coach hat (a short top hat), but, IMO, that's also a stretch.
l think I'll call it a Stagecoach hat!
 
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What style of hat is this?
Would you call it a Flat Top Bowler (I.e. Cambridge Bowler) or a Top Hat? What do you think?

Here are the specifics:
Maker: TP&H Trading Co. (Dobbs box just for display)
Style: Flat top, sides curved up, with pencil curl brim
Dimensions: 5 ¼” crown with a 3” brim
Hat Band: Black, 9 ligne, grosgrain crown ribbon with 5” bow
Lining: Heavy weight cotton
Sweatband: 2 ½ " black enameled leather, stitched at 8 to the inch
Felt: 100% beaver felt

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The crown is a little too tall & the brim a little too wide to be an accurate clone of a Coachman or a John Bull Top Hat.
 
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Location
vancouver, canada
What style of hat is this?
Would you call it a Flat Top Bowler (I.e. Cambridge Bowler) or a Top Hat? What do you think?

Here are the specifics:
Maker: TP&H Trading Co. (Dobbs box just for display)
Style: Flat top, sides curved up, with pencil curl brim
Dimensions: 5 ¼” crown with a 3” brim
Hat Band: Black, 9 ligne, grosgrain crown ribbon with 5” bow
Lining: Heavy weight cotton
Sweatband: 2 ½ " black enameled leather, stitched at 8 to the inch
Felt: 100% beaver felt

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I have a block similar to this and am making a hat similar just to try it out. My crown is not that tall but the profile is much the same. This picture has given me inspiration for the brim treatment.
 

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