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Beautiful Sunday at Dodger Stadium
as Bellinger hits to take first base, loading the bases in first inning.
Crowd arriving late as usual. ;)
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Truth is stranger than fiction.

If you've read Bernard Malamud's 1951 novel "The Natural," or have seen the movie, you remember when Roy Hobbs was shot in the stomach in a hotel room by a deranged female fan. Well, meet Eddie Waitkus.

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Eddie was a good-hitting, slick-fielding first baseman from Boston, who began his major league career with the Cubs in 1941, only to see his rise interrupted by the war. When he returned from Army service in 1946, he quickly became the Cubs' regular first sacker with a .304 batting average and followed that with two more quality campaigns. He gained a lot of attention in the press -- which, in turn, brought him to the attention of a troubled young teenager named Ruth Ann Steinhagen, who became obsessed with the good-looking young player. Steinhagen became a regular at Wrigley Field, turned her bedroom into a Waitkus shrine, and began taking lessons to learn to speak Lithuanian, since he was of that ancestry. Then, in 1948, Waitkus was traded to the Phillies.

It was a good move for Waitkus, and for the Phils -- but for Steinhagen it pushed her across the line separating teenage obsession from psychosis. On June 14, 1949, while in Chicago with the Phils, Waitkus received a mysterious note requesting him to meet an unknown woman in a room at the Edgewater Beach Hotel about a matter that would "be to (his) advantage" to discuss. His curiosity roused, Waitkus went up to the room -- where Ruth Ann was waiting for him with a .22 rifle. "You're not going to bother me anymore!" she declared as she fired a shot into Waitkus's abdomen.

Waitkus survived the shooting, returning to the Phils' lineup in 1950 as a key part of the team's first pennant-winner in thirty-five years, but he was deeply scarred by the incident, both physically and mentally. His career fizzled out by the mid-fifities, and he went home to Massachusetts, where his only connection to baseball would be a job teaching kids at the Ted Williams Baseball School. He began to drink heavily, became a reclusive, nervous loner, and died of cancer -- possibly triggered by injuries related to the shooting -- at the age of 53.

Ruth Ann Steinhagen was sent to a mental hospital in Chicago, where she was held for four years, recieving electroconvulsive therapy, and was released in 1953. She never set foot in a baseball park again, and remained in obscurity until her death in 2013.
 
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Truth is stranger than fiction.

If you've read Bernard Malamud's 1951 novel "The Natural," or have seen the movie, you remember when Roy Hobbs was shot in the stomach in a hotel room by a deranged female fan. Well, meet Eddie Waitkus.

Eddie_Waitkus_rookie_year.jpg


Eddie was a good-hitting, slick-fielding first baseman from Boston, who began his major league career with the Cubs in 1941, only to see his rise interrupted by the war. When he returned from Army service in 1946, he quickly became the Cubs' regular first sacker with a .304 batting average and followed that with two more quality campaigns. He gained a lot of attention in the press -- which, in turn, brought him to the attention of a troubled young teenager named Ruth Ann Steinhagen, who became obsessed with the good-looking young player. Steinhagen became a regular at Wrigley Field, turned her bedroom into a Waitkus shrine, and began taking lessons to learn to speak Lithuanian, since he was of that ancestry. Then, in 1948, Waitkus was traded to the Phillies.

It was a good move for Waitkus, and for the Phils -- but for Steinhagen it pushed her across the line separating teenage obsession from psychosis. On June 14, 1949, while in Chicago with the Phils, Waitkus received a mysterious note requesting him to meet an unknown woman in a room at the Edgewater Beach Hotel about a matter that would "be to (his) advantage" to discuss. His curiosity roused, Waitkus went up to the room -- where Ruth Ann was waiting for him with a .22 rifle. "You're not going to bother me anymore!" she declared as she fired a shot into Waitkus's abdomen.

Waitkus survived the shooting, returning to the Phils' lineup in 1950 as a key part of the team's first pennant-winner in thirty-five years, but he was deeply scarred by the incident, both physically and mentally. His career fizzled out by the mid-fifities, and he went home to Massachusetts, where his only connection to baseball would be a job teaching kids at the Ted Williams Baseball School. He began to drink heavily, became a reclusive, nervous loner, and died of cancer -- possibly triggered by injuries related to the shooting -- at the age of 53.

Ruth Ann Steinhagen was sent to a mental hospital in Chicago, where she was held for four years, recieving electroconvulsive therapy, and was released in 1953. She never set foot in a baseball park again, and remained in obscurity until her death in 2013.


Too much overlap not to believe that Malamud "adopted" some of this for his novel. To be fair to Malamud, as authors do, he simply used it for inspiration to his original story, but wow is that a neat connect.


Separately, saw this chart this morning:

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The only positive that I could take out of it is that Lizzie and I are below the average age of the MLB fan. At 53, I'm not below the average age of too many things anymore.

I'm wrong, one more positive, glad to see that soccer is suffering the same age shift, albeit form a younger base.
 

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That's a very interesting chart -- looks like football is ending pretty much in the same boat as baseball as far as the aging of its demographic goes.

I think spectator sports in general are losing their fanbase to videogames and such things -- I know a lot of kids who go to a ballgame once in a while, but they're not passionate, avid fans the way our generation was at their age. If you don't develop that passion when you're young, it's unlikely you'll pick it up when you're older. On the other hand, I know many kids who'll gladly travel across the country to participate in gaming conventions and such things.

As for the Waitkus story, what's really remarkable to me is that *it isn't the first time it happened.* Or even the first time it happened in *Chicago.*

In 1932, Cubs shortstop Billy Jurges was having a very good season, both on and off the field. He was helping to spark the Cubs to an eventual pennant -- and he was having a rather torrid off-field affair with a 21-year-old showgirl named Violet Popovich. But Billy was getting bored with Violet, and decided to break it off -- and she took it hard. On the night of July 6th, they had it out in Jurges' Chicago hotel room -- and Popovich replied to his unilateral decision to end the relationship by pulling out a pistol and firing three shots -- two of which wounded Jurges, one of them severely, and the third of which ricocheted off a wall and hit Popovich herself in the arm.

A note was subsequently found in Popovich's room in which she declared her plans to committ a murder-suicide, but both Jurges and Popovich survived the shooting, with Jurges refusing to press charges. Jurges went on to have a fine career, pairing with Billy Herman to create the finest double-play combination in the National League in the 1930s, and Violet Popovich, under the name of Violet Valli, had a successful career in burlesque, billing herself as "The Girl Who Shot For Love." It was a kinder, gentler time.

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Billy Jurges, ready for anything.


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Violet Popovich, likewise.
 
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The chart certainly argues you are right about the fan base. What will happen, either gradually or there will be a come-to-Jesus moment (a club will go bankrupt / a network won't bid at an auction / etc.), is the business will shrink - team values will go down / advertisers will pay less / players will make less / etc. - until it finds a new, smaller equilibrium.

The leagues have had it very good for a very long time. Things change - pain will be felt - and the sports will continue. Maybe some of the stupid and insulting excess will go out and normal fans (like me) will be able to see a few game a season without having to take out a mortgage :).

It's funny - and I think this is part of the sexism of the period - but women were actually, sometimes (only sometimes), treated leniently for "crimes of passion" as they were perceived as "weaker" and "more emotional." It was all wrong, but heck, since women got the bad end of the bargain 90% of the time, at least occasional it worked in their favor.

And, apparently, Malamud had plenty of real-life material from which to draw.
 

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Cracker Jack Popcorn Confection Premium Prize Toy Miniature Baseball Sports Card
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This series is made up of (24) miniature Nostalgic Baseball Cards.
These cards were made from the original larger 1915 Cracker
Jack baseball cards.
(24) were selected from the older sets and reproduced in miniature
for use as prizes during Cracker Jack's 100th anniversary in 1993.

The fronts have an image of the baseball player, their last name and
the team they were on.
The backs have additional information on the players as well as what
the original 1915 card number was. They measure 1-1/4" x 1-3/4".
Had fun collecting the series. Although a visit to the dentist was
part of the payback later on. :D
 
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Traveling in Montana it struck me how integral football is to the communities. In Montana regardless of whether an alumniyou are either a Grizzly or a Bobcat. Adults go to the Friday night high school game even if there are long grown up. Butte MT has a bbeautiful mini stadium with state of the art artificial turf. This is Montana, not Texas where I understand football approaches religious stature. I asked people if they feared for the future of football and all began by saying no. Football esp at the college level s too big an economic engine to be allowed to die......but by the end of the conversation they admitted they would think twice whether to allow their children to play knowing what they know now. I wonder if we are at the front edge of the death of football and wonder the cultural impact on these small communities if it does in fact die out.
 

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And if it didn't happen in Chicago, it happened in, or to, Brooklyn.

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Len Koenecke was somewhat elderly by rookie standards when he broke in with the Giants at the age of 28 in 1932, but he'd had a decent minor league career and John McGraw expected big things from him. Those things failed to materialize, and shortly after McGraw resigned his managerial position due to illness at mid-season, Koenecke was gone as well, bearing the tag of "The $75,000 Lemon." He spent 1933 at Buffalo in the International League, where he had a great season and the Dodgers picked him up for 1934.

Koenecke became one of the better players on a mediocre Brooklyn club under first-year manager Casey Stengel, with a .320 batting average and a near-flawless defensive record in the outfield. Dodger fans, who had little to get excited about in recent seasons, were excited about Koenecke, and were looking for him to lead the club into the first division in 1935. But something was wrong -- Koenecke was sullen, overweight and increasingly incompetent as the 1935 season wore on, and finally, on the last leg of a disastrous road trop, Stengel lost patience and sold the troubled outfielder to the minor league Rochester Red Wings. On September 16th, Koenecke got the news that he was off the Dodgers, and boarded a plane back to New York with two other teammates who had also been cut that day.

What happened next remains unclear. When the plane stopped to refuel in St. Louis, Koenecke slipped off, got on the outside of several stiff drinks, and reboarded the plane with a whiskey bottle in his hand. Koenecke got unpleasant on the next leg of the flight, and when the plane stopped in Detroit he was put off. In a disoriented condition, he somehow arranged for a seat on a charter flight to Buffalo -- and while that plane was in the air, he attacked the pilot, trying to take control of the aircraft. They grappled, the plane spun out of control, and acting out of desperation the pilot clubbed Koenecke over the head with a fire extinguisher until he was unconscious and bleeding on the floor, and managed to land the plane safely on a racetrack outside Toronto. By the time the plane rolled to a stop, Len Koenecke was dead.

No one really knows what happened to Koenecke in 1935 -- he'd never been a drinker, he'd never shown any tendency toward violence, and he'd never been a troublemaker of any kind. His teammates considered him a rather boring fellow. But something snapped that day and no one will ever know exactly what it was.
 

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Before it was Wrigley Field, before it was Cubs Park, it was Weeghman Park -- named after this man, Charles Weeghman.

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The sporting crowd called him "Lucky Charlie," but his luck would only carry him so far. He started out running a one-arm lunchroom in Chicago around the turn of the century, and his luck carried him into a series of deals that built that one hole-in-the-wall eatery into a whole chain of lunchrooms thruout the city. There was money in the quick-lunch business, and ten Weeghman's Dairy Lunch establishments meant that, very soon, Lucky Charlie was doing very well for himself, owning a theatre and a couple of poolrooms to go along with his lunch chain. But he wasn't satisfied -- he considered his new prosperity a stepping stone toward his real purpose, entree into the high-stepping world of gamblers, athletes, actors, and the demimonde. They called him "Lucky Charlie," and he was determined to try his luck to the full extent possible.

Toward that end Weeghman got involved with a group of similar venturesome characters in forming what they hoped would be taken seriously as a new major league. "Lucky Charlie" bought into this new Federal League, opening a franchise in Chicago -- the Whales -- and bought a plot of land at Clark and Addison Streets to build himself a ballpark. He also needed players to go with his franchise and its ballpark, and he followed the example of his colleagues in encouraging established major league players to jump their contracts to join the new league. Quite a few players did just that, and by opening day 1914, the Federal League could boast some impressive rosters. The Whales had old-line Chicago favorites Joe Tinker and Three-Finger Brown in their camp, and Weeghman paid them lavishly. Playing in its snappy new concrete-and-steel plant designed by the same architect behind Comiskey Park, the team finished second in 1914, and won the Federal League pennant in 1915.

But Lucky Charlie's luck was running out fast. His fortune had been built on mortgages and credit, and he had gone rather deep into hock to finance his baseball venture. The Federal League folded after the 1915 season, and one of the conditions negotiated with the rival leagues as part of the fold was that several Federal owners would have a chance to buy into the established clubs. Charlie Weeghman thus bought a controlling interest in the Cubs, and moved them into Weeghman Park in 1916. This move pushed him even deeper into debt -- but he was hoping to recover fast thanks to anticipated Cubs profits and the continued popularity of his lunchroom chain. Then the US entered World War I, and that was when Lucky Charlie's nickname became ironic.

Wartime austerity took a deep bite in the lunchroom business thruout Chicago, and baseball attendance suffered badly. And what the war didn't damage, the 1918 flu epidemic did. By the end of 1918 Charlie Weeghman was up against the not-yet-ivy-covered wall, owing a vast amount of money to banks and to various insistent shadowy personalities who weren't the sort to wait patiently for their cash. With nowhere else to turn he sold out his interest in the Cubs to chewing-gum king William Wrigley, and withdrew forever from baseball.

It got worse. Seeking solace in the pleasures of the flesh, Charlie found himself charged with adultery and lost his marriage. His lunchroom chain collapsed. His theatre folded. His poolrooms closed. He tried to go into the nightclub business, but Prohibition put certain demands on a nightclub operator that he found difficult to meet, given the business relationships required. Even before the Depression hit, Lucky Charlie was a ruined man. He fled to New York, failed to pull himself together, and died broke and forgotten from a stroke in 1938.

But he left behind his ballpark, the last remaining legacy of both the Federal League, and of a man who found that luck can only carry you so far.
 
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Before it was Wrigley Field, before it was Cubs Park, it was Weeghman Park -- named after this man, Charles Weeghman.

weeghman.jpg


The sporting crowd called him "Lucky Charlie," but his luck would only carry him so far. He started out running a one-arm lunchroom in Chicago around the turn of the century, and his luck carried him into a series of deals that built that one hole-in-the-wall eatery into a whole chain of lunchrooms thruout the city. There was money in the quick-lunch business, and ten Weeghman's Dairy Lunch establishments meant that, very soon, Lucky Charlie was doing very well for himself, owning a theatre and a couple of poolrooms to go along with his lunch chain. But he wasn't satisfied -- he considered his new prosperity a stepping stone toward his real purpose, entree into the high-stepping world of gamblers, athletes, actors, and the demimonde. They called him "Lucky Charlie," and he was determined to try his luck to the full extent possible.

Toward that end Weeghman got involved with a group of similar venturesome characters in forming what they hoped would be taken seriously as a new major league. "Lucky Charlie" bought into this new Federal League, opening a franchise in Chicago -- the Whales -- and bought a plot of land at Clark and Addison Streets to build himself a ballpark. He also needed players to go with his franchise and its ballpark, and he followed the example of his colleagues in encouraging established major league players to jump their contracts to join the new league. Quite a few players did just that, and by opening day 1914, the Federal League could boast some impressive rosters. The Whales had old-line Chicago favorites Joe Tinker and Three-Finger Brown in their camp, and Weeghman paid them lavishly, and the team finished second in 1914, and won the Federal League pennant in 1915.

But Lucky Charlie's luck was running out fast. His fortune had been built on mortgages and credit, and he had gone rather deep into hock to finance his baseball venture. The Federal League folded after the 1915 season, and one of the conditions negotiated with the rival leagues as part of the fold was that several Federal owners would have a chance to buy into the established clubs. Charlie Weeghman thus bought a controlling interest in the Cubs, and moved them into Weeghman Park in 1916. This move pushed him even deeper into debt -- but he was hoping to recover fast thanks to anticipated Cubs profits and the continued popularity of his lunchroom chain. Then the US entered World War I, and that was when Lucky Charlie's nickname became ironic.

Wartime austerity took a deep bite in the lunchroom business thruout Chicago, and baseball attendance suffered badly. And what the war didn't damage, the 1918 flu epidemic did. By the end of 1918 Charlie Weeghman was up against the not-yet-ivy-covered wall, owing a vast amount of money to banks and to various insistent shadowy personalities who weren't the sort to wait patiently for their cash. With nowhere else to turn he sold out his interest in the Cubs to chewing-gum king William Wrigley, and withdrew forever from baseball.

It got worse. Seeking solace in the pleasures of the flesh, Charlie found himself charged with adultery and lost his marriage. His lunchroom chain collapsed. His theatre folded. His poolrooms closed. He tried to go into the nightclub business, but Prohibition put certain demands on a nightclub operator that he found difficult to meet, given the business relationships required. Even before the Depression hit, Lucky Charlie was a ruined man. He fled to New York, failed to pull himself together, and died broke and forgotten from a stroke in 1938.

But he left behind his ballpark, the last remaining legacy of both the Federal League, and of a man who found that luck can only carry you so far.

There are many things to love in that story.

One, his aspirations were to "move up" into a world including gamblers and the demimonde (which is definitional a fringe of "good" society). Where one starts in life is beyond one's control and aspirations are fine and good, but usually when one decides to aspire, it is not to the shady edges of society.

Two, he named his baseball team the Whales - really? Maybe, just maybe, you could call a football team the Whales in a somewhat off-kilter attempt to impress with size, but I can't think of one feature of whales that really (without stretching too far) aligns with prowess in baseball.

The other parts of his story are similar to many rags-to-riches-and-back stories fueled by gumption, an original good idea, way, way too much leverage and overreach and, eventually, snap, crackle and pop. For example, there are some obvious parallels to another of our favorite Golden Era scoundrels - The Match King.
 
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Two, he named his baseball team the Whales - really? Maybe, just maybe, you could call a football the Whales in a somewhat off-kilter attempt to impress with size, but I can't think of one feature of whales that really (without stretching too far) aligns with prowess in baseball.

Our local minor league team just changed its name from the "Suns", to the "Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp"...against the protestations of the public.

Yeah.

Talk about dumb moves.

Rob
 

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They even put it out for public comment prior to...which garnered a majority of negatives...but changed the name, anyway.

And, Jacksonville isn't even known for it's shrimp.

Go figure.

Rob
 
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They even put it out for public comment prior to...which garnered a majority of negatives...but changed the name, anyway.

And, Jacksonville isn't even known for it's shrimp.

Go figure.

Rob

It's stuff like that, that breeds cynicism. If you put it out for comment, then you need to accept the feedback; otherwise, people know they were just being used and, when they didn't give the answer that was wanted, they were ignored.
 

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Our local minor league team just changed its name from the "Suns", to the "Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp"...against the protestations of the public.
Rob

Speaking of Florida, the Rays shone brightly last nite; taking full advantage of Cubs ace John Lester's lack of form, and nailing an impressive win.
 

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