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The Cavanagh Club

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After reading through some of this thread, I guess Cavanagh, at least their fedoras, came with a frayed bow. I only have one other, the thin ribbon 100 and it does not. Made some photos of this black hole this morning. 5 3/4" open crown with a 2 5/8 brim. Incredible felt. Just put a simple dry crease in this one. Gonna have to break out the steam and "practice" to get anywhere near Robert's fine crease that he put on his. No idea on the age of this one.
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scottyrocks

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My new Cavanagh. I have gathered from reading through this thread and The Proffessor's website and another thread on Cav liner dating , that my hat is probably late 1930's to early 1940's. The Park Ave. address on the logo gave me a window of 1936 to 1950. The sweatband narrowed it further. It is a Carter removable sweat.... Cavanagh only used these for a very short time . Just a couple years into the 1940's.
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Wow, that is just stupendous!
 

Bob Roberts

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11,201
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After reading through some of this thread, I guess Cavanagh, at least their fedoras, came with a frayed bow. I only have one other, the thin ribbon 100 and it does not. Made some photos of this black hole this morning. 5 3/4" open crown with a 2 5/8 brim. Incredible felt. Just put a simple dry crease in this one. Gonna have to break out the steam and "practice" to get anywhere near Robert's fine crease that he put on his. No idea on the age of this one.
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Such a great big beautuful black fedora. Dimensions just right. Crease is damn nice as well.
 

40Cal

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Wow, this is a museum piece! Love the color and ribbon Robert, money!
I think it's the nicest hat in my collection, Mike. One of the oldest too!

Oh my ... congrats!
Thank you, Bob!

I'm actually speechless...



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That says a lot, coming from you. Moon! Thank you

Insanely beautiful, Robert!! Every detail!
Wear it in good health.
Beatiful...
Thank you , Sir! It is a truly beautiful hat.

Boy, that's a beaut!
Thanks, Jim!

Wow, that is just stupendous!
Thank you, scottyrocks!
 

40Cal

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After reading through some of this thread, I guess Cavanagh, at least their fedoras, came with a frayed bow. I only have one other, the thin ribbon 100 and it does not. Made some photos of this black hole this morning. 5 3/4" open crown with a 2 5/8 brim. Incredible felt. Just put a simple dry crease in this one. Gonna have to break out the steam and "practice" to get anywhere near Robert's fine crease that he put on his. No idea on the age of this one.
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That's a beautiful hat, Greg! Congrats.
As to the dating of it. I got this from The Hatted Prof. website. "Cavanagh first put the words "Cavanagh Edge" at the front of the sweatband of their hats starting October 1, 1952." I would guess your was made around that time.
 
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Alabama
That's a beautiful hat, Greg! Congrats.
As to the dating of it. I got this from The Hatted Prof. website. "Cavanagh first put the words "Cavanagh Edge" at the front of the sweatband of their hats starting October 1, 1952." I would guess your was made around that time.

Thank you, Robert. Both for the complement and the info. Now all I need to do is send it to you for a killer crease.

Ever thought about a little side business. You put the finest creases on hats around here, IMO.
 

40Cal

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Thank you, Robert. Both for the complement and the info. Now all I need to do is send it to you for a killer crease.

Ever thought about a little side business. You put the finest creases on hats around here, IMO.
That's very kind of you to say, Greg. It's a lot of fun putting a crease in a new old hat.... It's a little like sculpting! Haha.
My Cavanagh came to me with some kind of telescoping crease/ porkpie look. I feel fortunate that Cavanagh used such outstanding felt in their hat making. It was re-shaped in no time.
 
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Albany Oregon
Early John Cavanagh Ltd. 247 Park Avenue, New York derby. This one is most likely an equestrian mode. Many interesting features, and loads of patina on this c.1926 offering. Dating is based on the C & K mfg tag under the laced sweat and the original liner logo. It has a padded (quilted with some backing fiber) liner that was originally sewed in. The little ring on the underside of the brim makes me think it was for a lanyard of some type. The size is embossed on the sweat as "Seven One Quarter". All in all a cool "museum piece" the fine stitching on the sweat is all but gone. It will live in the derby case I got with my old Christy's Bowler.

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Early John Cavanagh Ltd. 247 Park Avenue, New York derby. This one is most likely an equestrian mode. Many interesting features, and loads of patina on this c.1926 offering. Dating is based on the C & K mfg tag under the laced sweat and the original liner logo. It has a padded (quilted with some backing fiber) liner that was originally sewed in. The little ring on the underside of the brim makes me think it was for a lanyard of some type. The size is embossed on the sweat as "Seven One Quarter". All in all a cool "museum piece" the fine stitching on the sweat is all but gone. It will live in the derby case I got with my old Christy's Bowler.

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Fantastic historical piece, Mike. A riding hat I suppose?
 

moontheloon

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This one is mid to late 1940's. Green with a purplish ribbon. the original owner didn't wear it much judging by the condition. 2 1/2 inch brim . It came with a center dent... I didn't have the heart to change it so I just reworked it a bit.
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that is just gorgeous ... it particularly pokes at my fix button because I am heavily on the hunt for a Cav ....

congrats my man ... that thing is everything a fedora should be and unfortunately will never be again
 

Bob Roberts

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40Cal

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that is just gorgeous ... it particularly pokes at my fix button because I am heavily on the hunt for a Cav ....

congrats my man ... that thing is everything a fedora should be and unfortunately will never be again
Thanks Moon! When you do get a Cav ( and I have no doubt you will) I think you will find it to be an incredible example of the craft of fine hat making. Nothing else I have in my collection has quite the same feel .
 

moontheloon

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Thanks Moon! When you do get a Cav ( and I have no doubt you will) I think you will find it to be an incredible example of the craft of fine hat making. Nothing else I have in my collection has quite the same feel .

I have a beautiful Cav
Only somewhere in its life someone trimmed the cav edge off and left a 2 1/2” raw edge... still a beautiful hat ... but having a cav without a cav edge is kinda like a banana split with no banana


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