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COMPARING TWO ORIGINAL B3s

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by aswatland, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. aswatland

    aswatland My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Recently i took possession of a duo tone B3 by H. Bernstein in a size 42. It is a transitional B3 in that the maker used hand dyed shearling for the cuffs and one size panel. The rest of the fleece is machine spray dyed. Prior to late 1941 B3s were made using the hand dyed method. The Bernstein contract dates from 1942. There is a picture of one in the Eastman Golden book. The jacket is in remarkably good condition with very little wear to the cuffs and hem. But it has seen service!

    The second jacket also does not have the maker on the label and is also a size 42. This contract also dates to 1942 and is machine sprayed a seal brown. The facings are a little lighter than the seal brown shearling, but darker than the russet facings on the Bernstein. It was worn by a Lieutenant in the USAAF and has virtually no wear and I would describe it as "near mint".

    The photos show the differences between the two jackets.

    Bernstein
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    No-name maker 42-21700p
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    Honey-coloured veg tanned fleece of the Bernstein

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    Chrome Tanned fleece of the Non-name maker

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    Bernstein pocket
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    21700p pocket-note the differences in shape.


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    Hand dyed cuffs on the Bernstein
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    Machine sprayed cuffs
     
  2. aswatland

    aswatland My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Part 2

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    Bernstein spec label
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    21700p label
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    [​IMG]Buckles on the Bernstein

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    21700p

    Collar seam on the Bernstein
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    21700p
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    Bernstein's tripple marked Talon zip
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    Tripple talon on 21700p
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  3. jamespibworth@n

    jamespibworth@n One of the Regulars

    Thanks for sharing those with us, just great!:eusa_clap

    Interesting for me to see the some of the constriction differences from say an Irvin, for example the inside sleeve seams are not taped and the zip is tape is ‘exposed’ on one side.

    I am under the understanding that B3s have not lasted as well as Irvin’s due to the skins used. Is this correct?

    James
     
  4. aswatland

    aswatland My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Thanks James, You are quite right about the fleeces used for B3s. They are usually not as robust as those used for Irvins due to the type of fleece used. My two originals are exceptions and are wearable jackets. Here are a couple more details:

    USAAF decal on the Bernstein
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    Lieutenant bar on the insignia tag on the other jacket.
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  5. A great couple of survivors! Where do you keep this wonderful collection of jackets though?
     
  6. Leaky, moth-infested garden shed? ;)

    bk
     
  7. aswatland

    aswatland My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Too true. The jackets soak up the rain!lol
     
  8. Sheepskin makes good insulation for that leaky roof. :p

    bk
     
  9. aswatland

    aswatland My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Quite! Now which Irvin or B3 shall I test on the roof?;)
     

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