literally...to be cleaned and reconditioned...except the Optimo...it is fine, fine, fine. The Borsalino I picked up off of eBay a few months ago. It is the softest felt I've ever seen and is as light as a cloud. From the '30s or '40s. <P> Mac Lachlan on eBay I just got this off of ebay and I'd guess it is 1930s or 1940s and I'm guessing it is pure beaver. I'm going to have Optimo style it as a Widmark if possible. For you Western Fans...the Charlie One Horse was purchased in the 1970s before he was sold to DP. The hat has been on many of hunting trips and the liner has been gone for many years. The hat needs to be resized, lined, and cleaned. When I bought it it was styled to look old with sweat marks, etc. It is an original. This is my Indiana Jones Optimo from the 2000s. It is my favorite hat of the modern felts. It may not be a pure beaver FEDORA, but my head is GLAD when I have it on.