Diamond Dave - Buco J-21

[HoosierDaddy]

Much better fit. Looks great..!!

 

[ProteinNerd]

Nothing stupid about those pics, looks great!

 

[Superfluous]

Looks about two inches too long.

Well done A-1. Thats a real beauty.

 

[ProteinNerd]

Looks about two inches too long.

 

[A-1]

What about the positioning of the chest pocket?

 

[ProteinNerd]

 

[mendelboaz]

very nicalicious!

 

[Monitor]

Much better fit. Looks great..!!

So A-1, when are you sending it back?

I kid. Sort of. Looks like a really good jacket though yeah, hate bringing this up but it is a bit too long for my taste. I'm staying by my previous statement that the first jacket looked the business & just how I imagine these should be. That's a helluva distance between the chest and the D-pocket. I guess Dave wanted to be as accurate as possible with the snap-on belt loop going through the D-pocket, but oftentimes I noticed that the longer styled Buco's usually had the chest pocket lowered & the D-pocket moved up a bit, so the D-pocket belt loop snap was avoided. ...exactly what he did for your first jacket, oddly enough??

Are the sleeves longer on this one as well?

 

[zhz]

I agree with monitor. The jacke is bit longer for my taste, and the distance between chest and d pockets is strange.

 

[zhz]

For the reference, here's my dd j21, the old model, in shinki hh as well.

 

[A-1]

Yeah, I know what you guys mean!
To me he distance seemed strange in the beginning but I like it like that now!
For me the length is so much better now. I love how it feels wearing it. The first one I felt like a belly free girly.
The sleeves are not longer, but tighter. I fastened the Zips on the photo.

I'll write some more in the next days.

 

[handymike]

FEEL is important!
I can't wait to see shots of front and back in the great outdoors

 

[handymike]

ZHZ, Nice jacket!

 

[Monitor]

zhz that's ace!!

 

[Sloan1874]

Yes, the pocket proportions are a bit odd to my eyes. I don't think you can just add two inches, or whatever, and keep them where they were. But that said, if you're happy with it, that's what matters.

 

[pawineguy]

To my eye, part of the problem is that the quick photos are too dark to show the top seam of the D-pocket, so it's accentuating the distance between the D-pocket zipper and the upper chest pocket zipper. In natural light, I expect that it would look more balanced.

This discussion does raise some important points:

1. What does the pattern maker do when the length is changed, in relation to keeping the jacket in balance?

2. If this is really a new pattern based on a vintage jacket that Dave worked from, is it in fact more accurate while being less pleasing to some people's eyes?

 

[Sloan1874]

If the jacket length is extended, the pockets need to be repositioned in relation to the new length or reduced in size if it's shortened.

 

[ProteinNerd]

If the jacket length is extended, the pockets need to be repositioned in relation to the new length or reduced in size if it's shortened.

Isn't that just common sense and surely its done routinely when altering lengths etc?

 

[Sloan1874]

You would think so...

 

[Monitor]

Normal and a long version. If I'm not mistaken. But it illustrates well what I meant above.