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navetsea

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Not precisely a zip .... but may i join the club:)
It has something like d pocket, somewhat a lapel, and it stands too
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I just realize, i dont have wide wooden hanger for it. but looks it can wait until tomorrow:D
 

Mrfrown

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For those who don’t follow the new arrivals and on the way thread, I just recently picked up this great Bates cross zip. The leather is absolutely fantastic it’s supple, strong, and hefty with really great grain. I love the pocket configuration and lack of a coin pocket. It does have a stiff kidney panel and I am considering having the stiffener removed by Johnson Leathers. All in all, really stoked for my first jacket in this style.

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For those who don’t follow the new arrivals and on the way thread, I just recently picked up this great Bates cross zip. The leather is absolutely fantastic it’s supple, strong, and hefty with really great grain. I love the pocket configuration and lack of a coin pocket. It does have a stiff kidney panel and I am considering having the stiffener removed by Johnson Leathers. All in all, really stoked for my first jacket in this style.

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Don't remove the kidney panel thing! I always believed that makers know better what they're doing than we think we do. Something might turn out wrong if you remove it, something which was taken into the account when the panel was being made. Like, the lower back might end up warped or it will stick out or something... Maybe it'll look good but I don't think it's wise to risk it.

Fantastic jacket in any case and that's exactly how I want my cross zip to fit!
 

Mrfrown

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Don't remove the kidney panel thing! I always believed that makers know better what they're doing than we think we do. Something might turn out wrong if you remove it, something which was taken into the account when the panel was being made. Like, the lower back might end up warped or it will stick out or something... Maybe it'll look good but I don't think it's wise to risk it.

Fantastic jacket in any case and that's exactly how I want my cross zip to fit!

Fair enough and your points are pretty much in line with my concerns (plus the $150 & shipping to remove it)

I wore it a bit this morning after giving it some time to air out, and really the stiff section doesn’t jump out so starkly in person when moving around etc compared to a still picture of the back.
 
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Fair enough and your points are pretty much in line with my concerns (plus the $150 & shipping to remove it)

I wore it a bit this morning after giving it some time to air out, and really the stiff section doesn’t jump out so starkly in person when moving around etc compared to a still picture of the back.

Maybe it'll turn out just fine. What do I really know. I just don't like to mess with the completed jacket. :)
 

AeroFan_07

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That's a beauty Mr. Frown. Glad to see you not frowning as you zipped it up!

I agree that "stiffened" lower back panel looks a bit odd in the still photo, but when you move around in it, it should work out well. Does it actually give some back support (I think that was the original intent.)

You mention air it out, does it have any odors? Sadly, many of those wonderful vintage pieces have a "forever" smell that got imparted to them over decades. Sort of like patina for the nose. Enjoy your new jacket - it will be a great piece to have in the fall.
 

Mrfrown

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That's a beauty Mr. Frown. Glad to see you not frowning as you zipped it up!

I agree that "stiffened" lower back panel looks a bit odd in the still photo, but when you move around in it, it should work out well. Does it actually give some back support (I think that was the original intent.)

You mention air it out, does it have any odors? Sadly, many of those wonderful vintage pieces have a "forever" smell that got imparted to them over decades. Sort of like patina for the nose. Enjoy your new jacket - it will be a great piece to have in the fall.

Yeah, you hit it on the nose :)|)

Just giving it a try to see if it can be reduced, the smell isn’t terrible or anything. It just smells like someone (or many someones) else.

As for the kidney panel, it does feel like a little hug back there, and it doesn’t seem to impact mobility in any noticeable way. I haven’t worn it much, and not while driving or other activities where it would be more apparent if there was a problem.
 

navetsea

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Yeah it is a bit late to remove the stiffener now just take it as its identity, all the back creases have adjusted around that kidney panel, if suddenly removed you might end up with back creases trying to find new position yet the leather already set in for years in their usual position and will look awkward. Like jeans that you wear with a cuff for a long time and then you suddenly hem it or wear it stacked, it will look weird. Just my theory again
 

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Tom71

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Damn. I'm afraid I just fell in love with this jacket. I haven't seen this model on the Aero side yet. Isn't the Ridley a regular model?
Source: https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...e-for-aero-jackets.77738/page-97#post-2684413
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Like Marker2037 already observed, The Ridley is a slimmed down Version of the J-106 from the regular Aero stock. A "premier fit" if you want to say so. They do it to the "Bootlegger" as well, which was the perfect solution for me as I find the regular cut way too boxy for my physique.
Both The "Premier" Ridley and the "Premier" Bootlegger are part of Thurston´s regular range, but of course Aero will certainly do them for you as well, upon request.
 

MrProper

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Like Marker2037 already observed, The Ridley is a slimmed down Version of the J-106 from the regular Aero stock. A "premier fit" if you want to say so. They do it to the "Bootlegger" as well, which was the perfect solution for me as I find the regular cut way too boxy for my physique.
Both The "Premier" Ridley and the "Premier" Bootlegger are part of Thurston´s regular range, but of course Aero will certainly do them for you as well, upon request.

Thanks. I am already in contact with Aero for this. ;)
 

regius

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No flight from Greece to the US? My BK cross zip is still not showing up on USPS stateside tracking, still at the Athens airport, for two weeks
 
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No flight from Greece to the US? My BK cross zip is still not showing up on USPS stateside tracking, still at the Athens airport, for two weeks

I'm waiting for two jackets arriving from the US for five months now. I don't expect to ever see them anymore, TBH. Best not buy or sell anything across the ocean.
 

AeroFan_07

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I hadn't heard of this brand prior to your post. Very nice jacket. I love the wool houndstooth liner in red and black.

I want a J-21 eventually.

Thanks, yes I noticed it looking at a different jacket on that site. Maybe it's just the photography, but I just think it looks amazing! The liner really adds to it as well. Do you all have much of a jacket season there in your country? I would suspect it's rather warm most of the time?
 

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