I missed the shorts discussion, but I'll still add my thoughts:
Hate shorts personally.
My strategy for this keeping cool this summer : linen pants and linen long sleeve top with a hood.
Hood helps keep the sun away from the neck, ears, etc..
Long sleeves and long pants keep the sun away from the skin as much as possible.
I guess in terms of hot weather I tend to look at how people dress in the desert - long robes with hoods, not shorts and t-shirts.
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@The Lost Cowboy
Thank you for your extremely thorough and informative response! Glad that my sharing of plans/thoughts provoked it, respect to you sir!
The long story of shorts.Desert robes such as thawbs perform a triple function in their specific dry environment: they allow air to circulate during the day while protecting the skin from the sun, but they also (to some extent) keep the body’s heat in at night when the desert gets cold. Try wearing a thawb in a jungle and by mid-morning it will cling to your upper body like a shower curtain and you’ll be dragging it around like a corpse all day. Your trousers and shirt are in no way analogous to a robe since you can remove the shirt and still keep the trousers. This is not a small difference.
Shorts, on the other hand, ARE analogous to numerous culture's short skirts for men (such as the Roman tunic) or loin cloths worn by men the world over throughout history (also in extreme desert environments, eg, the Navajo). They are also somewhat analogous to options like the sarong where the length is easily modified. Go to India or Indonesia today and you will see many many laborers with their sarongs ******* between their legs or rolled up high at the waste to bring the hem above their knees. Are these "shorts"? No, but they serve the same function and are much more analogous to shorts than linen trousers and shirts are to the robes worn by desert-dwellers.
This thread’s antagonism to short trousers is understandable since it’s mostly a leather jacket community. I get that. If you think shorts look silly, fine - but implying they don’t serve a practical function or don't have precedent throughout human culture and history is simply not accurate.
I love this jacket!Just an update on the Appalachian. Been a little over a week since getting it.
The leather already started to soften up nicely. We had heavy rainfall in NY on Memorial Day, so took it out which jumpstarted the break in.
Really starting to dig it more. It's true, it only gets better as you wear it. Unfortunately, I've had to wear it mostly at home for the time-being
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Schott 568 Vandals Jacket - $1,250 The classic Perfecto motorcycle jacket, in a very special limited-edition Schott double rider style. It feels like a completely different one now... so I'm falling in love with it all over again!I love this jacket!
Good points. Shorts are the go-to summer option down here in New Zealand ( and Australia). I agree that we should look at other options such light trousers or robes which probably make more sense given we have the worlds highest rates of melanoma down here.Desert robes such as thawbs perform a triple function in their specific dry environment: they allow air to circulate during the day while protecting the skin from the sun, but they also (to some extent) keep the body’s heat in at night when the desert gets cold. Try wearing a thawb in a jungle and by mid-morning it will cling to your upper body like a shower curtain and you’ll be dragging it around like a corpse all day. Your trousers and shirt are in no way analogous to a robe since you can remove the shirt and still keep the trousers. This is not a small difference.
Shorts, on the other hand, ARE analogous to numerous culture's short skirts for men (such as the Roman tunic) or loin cloths worn by men the world over throughout history (also in extreme desert environments, eg, the Navajo). They are also somewhat analogous to options like the sarong where the length is easily modified. Go to India or Indonesia today and you will see many many laborers with their sarongs ******* between their legs or rolled up high at the waste to bring the hem above their knees. Are these "shorts"? No, but they serve the same function and are much more analogous to shorts than linen trousers and shirts are to the robes worn by desert-dwellers.
This thread’s antagonism to short trousers is understandable since it’s mostly a leather jacket community. I get that. If you think shorts look silly, fine - but implying they don’t serve a practical function or don't have precedent throughout human culture and history is simply not accurate.
Good points. Shorts are the go-to summer option down here in New Zealand ( and Australia). I agree that we should look at other options such light trousers or robes which probably make more sense given we have the worlds highest rates of melanoma down here.
Very informative. There's definitely historical precedent for shorts. I refuse to wear them outside of swimming or exercising because I hate how they look.Desert robes such as thawbs perform a triple function in their specific dry environment: they allow air to circulate during the day while protecting the skin from the sun, but they also (to some extent) keep the body’s heat in at night when the desert gets cold. Try wearing a thawb in a jungle and by mid-morning it will cling to your upper body like a shower curtain and you’ll be dragging it around like a corpse all day. Your trousers and shirt are in no way analogous to a robe since you can remove the shirt and still keep the trousers. This is not a small difference.
Shorts, on the other hand, ARE analogous to numerous culture's short skirts for men (such as the Roman tunic) or loin cloths worn by men the world over throughout history (also in extreme desert environments, eg, the Navajo). They are also somewhat analogous to options like the sarong where the length is easily modified. Go to India or Indonesia today and you will see many many laborers with their sarongs ******* between their legs or rolled up high at the waste to bring the hem above their knees. Are these "shorts"? No, but they serve the same function and are much more analogous to shorts than linen trousers and shirts are to the robes worn by desert-dwellers.
This thread’s antagonism to short trousers is understandable since it’s mostly a leather jacket community. I get that. If you think shorts look silly, fine - but implying they don’t serve a practical function or don't have precedent throughout human culture and history is simply not accurate.
Congrats on becoming a US vendor for RC!Testing out new Sugar Cane pants, too hot for the RC Hercules but the pants are a winner in my book. Roomy enough to feel breezy but not super oversized either. Really dig how this all works together.
I’ll be posting more about it soon but Rainbow Country has agreed to let me be a vendor for them in the USA. Got confirmation today and learned simultaneously that I have to make the order by Friday so it’s crunch time lol.
That being said if you’ve been looking for a new Hercules hit me up! Especially if you need a smaller or larger size, otherwise I’ll be ordering near the center of the size curve. I may get other models but will have to see.
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Great news! Congrats and good luck in your new venture.Testing out new Sugar Cane pants, too hot for the RC Hercules but the pants are a winner in my book. Roomy enough to feel breezy but not super oversized either. Really dig how this all works together.
I’ll be posting more about it soon but Rainbow Country has agreed to let me be a vendor for them in the USA. Got confirmation today and learned simultaneously that I have to make the order by Friday so it’s crunch time lol.
That being said if you’ve been looking for a new Hercules hit me up! Especially if you need a smaller or larger size, otherwise I’ll be ordering near the center of the size curve. I may get other models but will have to see.
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You have chosen the right path. These pants will go well with all your leather jackets.Testing out new Sugar Cane pants, too hot for the RC Hercules but the pants are a winner in my book. Roomy enough to feel breezy but not super oversized either. Really dig how this all works together.
I’ll be posting more about it soon but Rainbow Country has agreed to let me be a vendor for them in the USA. Got confirmation today and learned simultaneously that I have to make the order by Friday so it’s crunch time lol.
That being said if you’ve been looking for a new Hercules hit me up! Especially if you need a smaller or larger size, otherwise I’ll be ordering near the center of the size curve. I may get other models but will have to see.
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The jacket is made for you. Keep wearing the jacket and it will be even coolerJust an update on the Appalachian. Been a little over a week since getting it.
The leather already started to soften up nicely. We had heavy rainfall in NY on Memorial Day, so took it out which jumpstarted the break in.
Really starting to dig it more. It's true, it only gets better as you wear it. Unfortunately, I've had to wear it mostly at home for the time-being
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