Akubra Campdraft

Most are , but some can be almost flat , or they can be turned down front and back (but Flanged) Safari Style .

Cap_7597 said:

...Question: What is fedora flanged?

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Hat makers use a tool called a "flange" to shape a hat's brim and to determine the amount of curvature it will have, i.e. that upwards "curl" or "cupping" at the brim's edge. Fedoras generally have a relatively "deep flange", which is what allows the wearer to snap the brim up or down in the front, hence the term "fedora flanged". By comparison to a regular Campdraft, RM Williams' version has a relatively flat brim.

Zombie_61 said:

Hat makers use a tool called a "flange" to shape a hat's brim and to determine the amount of curvature it will have, i.e. that upwards "curl" or "cupping" at the brim's edge. Fedoras generally have a relatively "deep flange", which is what allows the wearer to snap the brim up or down in the front, hence the term "fedora flanged". By comparison to a regular Campdraft, RM Williams' version has a relatively flat brim.

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Got ya!! I have a Stetson OR and the brim curls up pretty good all the way around. I've been trying to make it flatter. So if probably like the RM better with the flatter brim. Thank you for the info for a Newb. Haha


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So if probably like the RM better with the flatter brim.

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As has been stated, most CampDrafts have a curl pressed into the brim by a tool called a flange. This gives the brim the ability to make varied shapes. Most use a downward snap to the front and an upward snap in the rear which is common to fedoras.

However, the RM Williams version of the CampDraft (And yes, they do refer to it as a CampDraft in their literature in spite of the color and flanging differences.) has less curl because it is often intended to be turned down all the way around or have just a slight upward snap to the rear - if desired. I prefer to have the neck protection so I turn down. This CampDraft is a stiffer hat (and more waterproof) which initially takes some getting used to, but is quite durable. It takes the shape of your head in a reasonable time and is not uncomfortable. Just not quite as pleasing as the other CampDrafts that I own when first worn. The color is great. Rich brown with slight gray effect as the light hits the felt edges. Pouncing is far superior to other CDs. Uniform all over and the texture pleasing to the touch. No pouncing gaps. Hatband, coachman's cord/wind trolley and sweat are identical to Imperial CampDrafts. The sweat on Heritage is wide and clearly different.

When dealing with RM Williams, be very blunt and exact about telling them the size desired. Tell them that you expect them to verify the size on a block and do a general quality inspection before shipping. They sent me a mismarked Akubra that was huge - Size 60 rather than the 58 which was ordered and marked. All Akubras do shrink to fit, but there is only so much shrinkage that is reasonable to accept. It is a bit late after the item has been shipped halfway around the world to correct the production error and failure to detect the error. That was a sore issue for me and I would prefer to not have you experience a repeat of their negligence.

Even so, I got a great hat for a good price - even after the extra shipping costs.

I would do the same with Hats Direct who once sent me a defective CampDraft. Only Sam at Everything Australian is without any error issues - likely because I understand that he looks at every hat personally before shipping. He is a joy to deal with and always my first choice.

Short version - Make them do it right up front.

Fed

Fed in a Fedora said:

As has been stated, most CampDrafts have a curl pressed into the brim by a tool called a flange. This gives the brim the ability to make varied shapes. Most use a downward snap to the front and an upward snap in the rear which is common to fedoras.

However, the RM Williams version of the CampDraft (And yes, they do refer to it as a CampDraft in their literature in spite of the color and flanging differences.) has less curl because it is often intended to be turned down all the way around or have just a slight upward snap to the rear - if desired. I prefer to have the neck protection so I turn down. This CampDraft is a stiffer hat which takes some getting used to, but is quite durable and takes the shape of your head in time and is not uncomfortable. Also not quite as pleasing at the other CampDrafts that I own. The color is great. Rich brown with slight gray effect as the light hits the felt edges. Pouncing is far superior to other CDs. Uniform all over and pleasing to the touch. No pouncing gaps. Hatband, coachman's cord/wind trolley and sweat are identical to Imperial CampDrafts.

When dealing with RM Williams, be very blunt and exact about telling them the size desired. Tell them that you expect them to verify the size on a block and do a general quality inspection before shipping. They sent me a mismarked Akubra that was huge - Size 60 rather than the 58 which was ordered and marked. It is a bit late after the item has been shipped halfway around the world to correct the production error and failure to detect the error. That was a sore issue for me and I would prefer to not have you experience a repeat of their negligence.

Even so, I got a great hat for a good.

I would do the same with Hats Direct who sent me a defective CampDraft. Only Sam at Everything Australian is without any issues - likely because I understand that he looks at every hat personally before shipping.

Make them do it right up front.

Fed

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Fed , don't Hats By The 100 and affiliated sellers (Australian Gear) sell the RM Williams CD , too ?

Fed in a Fedora said:

As has been stated, most CampDrafts have a curl pressed into the brim by a tool called a flange. This gives the brim the ability to make varied shapes. Most use a downward snap to the front and an upward snap in the rear which is common to fedoras.

However, the RM Williams version of the CampDraft (And yes, they do refer to it as a CampDraft in their literature in spite of the color and flanging differences.) has less curl because it is often intended to be turned down all the way around or have just a slight upward snap to the rear - if desired. I prefer to have the neck protection so I turn down. This CampDraft is a stiffer hat which takes some getting used to, but is quite durable and takes the shape of your head in time and is not uncomfortable. Also not quite as pleasing at the other CampDrafts that I own. The color is great. Rich brown with slight gray effect as the light hits the felt edges. Pouncing is far superior to other CDs. Uniform all over and pleasing to the touch. No pouncing gaps. Hatband, coachman's cord/wind trolley and sweat are identical to Imperial CampDrafts.

When dealing with RM Williams, be very blunt and exact about telling them the size desired. Tell them that you expect them to verify the size on a block and do a general quality inspection before shipping. They sent me a mismarked Akubra that was huge - Size 60 rather than the 58 which was ordered and marked. It is a bit late after the item has been shipped halfway around the world to correct the production error and failure to detect the error. That was a sore issue for me and I would prefer to not have you experience a repeat of their negligence.

Even so, I got a great hat for a good.

I would do the same with Hats Direct who sent me a defective CampDraft. Only Sam at Everything Australian is without any issues - likely because I understand that he looks at every hat personally before shipping.

Make them do it right up front.

Fed

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Thanks fed for all the info!!!! I really do like that color of the RM. And I've read how good the sweat is on the Imperial.

It might be wise for me to get one of each, a CD and RM... You know, just so I truly do know the difference!! At least that's how I'll explain it to the wife. She might go with that excuse. You think? Hahaha. ))


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Cap_7597 said:

Thanks fed for all the info!!!! I really do like that color of the RM. And I've read how good the sweat is on the Imperial.

It might be wise for me to get one of each, a CD and RM... You know, just so I truly do know the difference!! At least that's how I'll explain it to the wife. She might go with that excuse. You think? Hahaha. ))


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I would get the BlueGrass Green CD and the RM Williams. I also have a Silverbelly and MoonStone, but the brown and green are the favorites by far. EA is the best source of Akubras - if they have what you want.

Michael R. said:

Fed , don't Hats By The 100 and affiliated sellers (Australian Gear) sell the RM Williams CD , too ?

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There are a couple of sources of the RM Williams, but I am not sure that they are not actually the same.

Good luck with whatever you get!

Cap_7597 said:

Thanks fed for all the info!!!! I really do like that color of the RM. And I've read how good the sweat is on the Imperial.

It might be wise for me to get one of each, a CD and RM... You know, just so I truly do know the difference!! At least that's how I'll explain it to the wife. She might go with that excuse. You think? Hahaha. ))


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I would get the BlueGrass Green CD and the RM Williams. I also have a Silverbelly and MoonStone, but the brown and green are the favorites by far. EA is the best source of Akubras - if they have what you want.

Good luck with whatever you get!

Michael R. said:

Fed , don't Hats By The 100 and affiliated sellers (Australian Gear) sell the RM Williams CD , too ?

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There are a couple of sites advertising the RM Williams version of the CampDraft, but I suspect that they are ultimately the same source. Here are what I looked at when I purchased. Not sure which I actually used at the moment. In the process of moving so access to my records is quite limited.
http://www.rmwilliams.com.au/akubra--rm--hat/HA179.html
http://www.australiangear.com/rm-williams-by-akubra-mid-brown.html
http://www.hatsbythe100.com.au/rm-williams-by-akubra-mid-brown.html

Cap_7597 said:

Got ya!! I have a Stetson OR and the brim curls up pretty good all the way around. I've been trying to make it flatter. So if probably like the RM better with the flatter brim. Thank you for the info for a Newb. Haha

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You're very welcome. Everyone here was a "newb" at one time or another with regards to hats, and you've found the best place on the 'Net to learn about them. Hats, that is, not newbs.

Zombie_61 said:

You're very welcome. Everyone here was a "newb" at one time or another with regards to hats, and you've found the best place on the 'Net to learn about them. Hats, that is, not newbs.

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Thanks Zombie. Your pics have helped me a lot on my decision of which Campdraft to order first! Taupe Fawn!

Seems like that color will be a good work hat and want show as much dirt and such on it. Plus she said it'll be coming with the taupe colored satin lining.

If it is as good as y'all say it is, I'll be getting the RM Brown and CDBG from EU.

I ordered from the Hattery (HatsDirect), although EU is $20usd cheaper, there is a 3 month wait. I'll have to wait the 3 months for the BG when the time comes to order.


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I'm a little late to the party, but congratulations on picking out your Camp Draft, Cap_7957. I think you'll find that the Taupe Fawn is a very versatile color.

Spats McGee said:

I'm a little late to the party, but congratulations on picking out your Camp Draft, Cap_7957. I think you'll find that the Taupe Fawn is a very versatile color.

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+1

My Campdraft arrived today from the Hattery!!!! 8 days!!!

My Burnstain Bear hat!! Ha


It's pretty big sized, but most say it'll shrink up on here. Might try distilled water on the sweat and a hair dryer to help it along!

My first ever dry bash attempt. The hat is very soft!!! No problems at all.






The color is great!!!! I was scared it would be like a milk chocolate brown. Very nice!!!

I'm a happy Camper....Draft? Ha


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My Campdraft arrived today from the Hattery!!!! 8 days!!!

My Burnstain Bear hat!! Ha

It's pretty big sized, but most say it'll shrink up on here. Might try distilled water on the sweat and a hair dryer to help it along!

My first ever dry bash attempt. The hat is very soft!!! No problems at all.

The color is great!!!! I was scared it would be like a milk chocolate brown. Very nice!!!

I'm a happy Camper....Draft? Ha


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Nice hat well bashed.

Looks great, Cap!

Cap , if you pad the sweat it normally shrinks from wear in a few weeks to where you can remove the foam . It looks great ! Congratulations !

Thanks y'all!!! I appreciate it!!!

I put some steam on it and formed it up a little better.

I'll put some foam in it and wear it for a few weeks like that and see what happens.

Do you put the foam that came with it under the sweat? Or use the sticky on the outside of the sweat?
I would think under....


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Thanks y'all!!! I appreciate it!!!

I put some steam on it and formed it up a little better.

I'll put some foam in it and wear it for a few weeks like that and see what happens.

Do you put the foam that came with it under the sweat? Or use the sticky on the outside of the sweat?
I would think under....


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Under. You don't have to use the sticky if you plan on removing it. Mine stayed in without sticking it. Nice bash and good-looking hat by the way.


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Thanks y'all!!! I appreciate it!!!

I put some steam on it and formed it up a little better.

I'll put some foam in it and wear it for a few weeks like that and see what happens.

Do you put the foam that came with it under the sweat? Or use the sticky on the outside of the sweat?
I would think under....


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Yeah , like Eli said , Just under the sweat (between the sweat and the felt behind it) , so you can remove it later , not sticking it . You may try it a few ways , sometimes you need it all around , others just on the sides , or wherever it needs it . It's basically just peel and stick weather stripping , you can buy a roll for $3.50-$5 , plus not sticking it , you can reuse it .

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Under. You don't have to use the sticky if you plan on removing it. Mine stayed in without sticking it. Nice bash and good-looking hat by the way.


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Thank you. I appreciate it!!!


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