Fit check five different schott leather jackets

Seb Lucas said:

Since you asked - none of those jackets appears to fit especially well. Most look cramped around the shoulder, stomach and sleeves. The flying jacket is big in the stomach and looks baggy from the chest down. Maybe it's the photos.

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It might be the photos. None of them feel too tight or cramped.

Thanks you all for your opinions.
I went back and tried some of them one size up. But i still prefer the fit of the smaller size.
Especially the sleeves seems to get too long and sacky, if i go one up.

Tbh, I've noticed Schott posts have been turning up here of late, and I'm not quite sure why. To me, in terms of vintage style, they are somewhere around the bottom of my shopping list, if on it at all. I know people like their biker jackets, but given the amount of choice out there in terms of customisation and quality, Schott isn't much more distinguished than a high street label.

Sloan1874 said:

...in terms of customisation and quality, Schott isn't much more distinguished than a high street label.

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But... It's Schott design and quality that most TFL favourite makers are trying to emulate. Of course they're turning up, they're the only truly original company still in business, one that hasn't stopped making styles from the era this forum is supposed to be about.

Again and again and again, the quality of Schott is at the level of any, and I mean any other brand out there.

I knew you'd come back on this, Monitor, which is why I said 'some people like their jackets'. But in the UK, I would say the label, as it is constituted in modern terms, for most people it's associated with high street puffer jackets and whatnot.
I get the impression that Schott are now trying to return to their vintage roots, but as a contemporary maker, they really leave me cold. I have not seen a single one of their designs on this forum that has changed my mind on this score - there are five jackets on this thread alone that I've shrugged my shoulders at.
I don't doubt their quality, don't get me wrong. But let's face it, at the level we're dealing with on here, when it comes to build it's a question of degree rather than order between makers.

I don't really have anything meaningful to add that I haven't already said many times in the past. Just that, they've pretty much invented the cafe racer style they're still making; one of the earliest D-pocket styles belongs to them; they make the Perfecto which is still the alpha and the omega of the lancer front MC jackets (regardless of the fact whether they've invented the thing or not, the fact remains that the Schott Perfecto is the oldest and the most perfected of all the similar vintage styles out there), etc., etc. . .

And it's these jackets why half of us are a members of this forum.

I don't think Schott has ever abandoned their vintage roots considering that the flagship product of the company is and has always been the Perfecto. It's true that Schott had produced some very questionable designes - truth be told, I honestly wouldn't even consider around 75% of their stuff - but their main motorcycle line is, in my opinion, the epitome of vintage that has always been of the highest possible quality.

If only they were a bit less shortsighted. Himel and Dave, for example, are making the Beck 333 repro for close to two grands while it was Schott that came up with the design and was producing it under contract. They still have the patterns and everything but so far they've only made that one limited Horween edition.

...and I honestly don't even like Schott more than Aero, which I really love. I will always recommend Vanson over Schott for riding or Aero CXL over Schott Steer for the looks. But this is as good as it gets and as vintage as it gets.

I was extremely active here in late 2006, throughout 2008. If one goes back and looks at the thread topics during that period in this forum, the majority dealing with leather jackets are related to A-2's, and Navy flight jackets, with very few regarding cafe racers, and motorcycle jackets in general. The HWM was, and still is popular, as well as the more stylish Golden-Era influenced half-belts available

I was surprised to see the shift towards MC jackets when I came back years later. At times, I jokingly call the Outerwear Forum 'The Fedora Saloon', instead of 'Lounge'. I quite enjoy my vintage look, and do my best to incorporate Golden Era clothing into my wardrobe... Not just jackets, but my entire ensemble, especially when I'm out-n-about. To me, that's the overall premise of this site, and what it's all about. What I've been seeing is a lot of 'biker-types' with some vintage-style MC jackets over modern T-shirts, and jeans for the most part.

I also miss seeing posts from older members such as Matt Deckard, Hemingway Jones, Baron Kurtz, and others, posting about actual vintage wool / fabric jackets, as well as overcoats, trench coats, etc.. Many truly interesting threads posted which are still occasionally dredged-up. Not knowing the actual reasons, I can make a guess why they do not post here as much, if at all these days. Folks were also able to post more freely about their 'lower-rung' jackets which had vintage style, without fear of being looked down-the-nose upon by other members.

The 'premise' of the Fedora Lounge is simple, and exactly how it's stated in the 'About Us':

A community dedicated to the vintage clothing and accessories of the Golden Era

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I know that times change and all, but IMO, the 'premise' has veered off-course somewhat in this forum..

To the OP: I apologize for posting this in your thread, but the pretentiousness I see here at times these days really frosts my ass, and I have always been one to type my mind..

OP, looks like you're a good candidate for vintage Schott. Go bigger in the sizing but you'll still get shorter sleeves and jacket length. That's what I do, since none of their new stuff fits me. I think it's pre-90s but it could be earlier/later that they changed the patterns. Gail at Schott is a good person to ask. I have a vintage cafe jacket of theirs from the early 70s and it's, um, perfecto.

Technonut said:

I was extremely active here in late 2006, throughout 2008. If one goes back and looks at the thread topics during that period in this forum, the majority dealing with leather jackets are related to A-2's, and Navy flight jackets, with very few regarding cafe racers, and motorcycle jackets in general. The HWM was, and still is popular, as well as the more stylish Golden-Era influenced half-belts available

I was surprised to see the shift towards MC jackets when I came back years later. At times, I jokingly call the Outerwear Forum 'The Fedora Saloon', instead of 'Lounge'. I quite enjoy my vintage look, and do my best to incorporate Golden Era clothing into my wardrobe... Not just jackets, but my entire ensemble, especially when I'm out-n-about. To me, that's the overall premise of this site, and what it's all about. What I've been seeing is a lot of 'biker-types' with some vintage-style MC jackets over modern T-shirts, and jeans for the most part.

I also miss seeing posts from older members such as Matt Deckard, Hemingway Jones, Baron Kurtz, and others, posting about actual vintage wool / fabric jackets, as well as overcoats, trench coats, etc.. Many truly interesting threads posted which are still occasionally dredged-up. Not knowing the actual reasons, I can make a guess why they do not post here as much, if at all these days. Folks were also able to post more freely about their 'lower-rung' jackets which had vintage style, without fear of being looked down-the-nose upon by other members.

The 'premise' of the Fedora Lounge is simple, and exactly how it's stated in the 'About Us':



I know that times change and all, but IMO, the 'premise' has veered off-course somewhat in this forum..

To the OP: I apologize for posting this in your thread, but the pretentiousness I see here at times these days really frosts my ass, and I have always been one to type my mind..

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This.

When I joined the forum - 2013 I think it was? - motorcycle styled jackets were making up for about half the threads being discussed on the Outerwear but this quickly changed for the worse as the fashion industry was just beginning to take an inspiration from the vintage MC style, which consequently let to more and more members joining TFL just to talk motorcycle jackets. And... I know, it's not something I am really happy about either because I feel it's not what this place should be about. Not to this extent. At least. Even the logo of the place as a guy wearing a suit and a hat.

My love for motorcycle jackets started because I was riding and because I wanted a quality leather jacket that looks good and so one thing led to another. Thanks to this place, I discovered how insanely beautiful motorcycle jackets used to be. But yeah, I feel the more stylish golden era clothes has become neglected. And it's something I probably have contributed to. I have near freaking 3500 posts which are mostly about motorcycle jackets. I often think I shouldn't even be here...

The problem on the other hand is that there isn't really any other such place to discuss vintage motorcycle jackets. Styleforum is a very confused place, HD forum is too casual, the movie forum which is really awesome in it self is really more about movie jackets. And the vintage jackets place is way too A2. So if I wanna discuss the differences between a Fidelity and Beau Breed CR, there's only TFL.

Sure, I may wear an MC jacket over T-shirt and a pair of jeans but I love the vintage style this forum is about. It's awesome seeing Rabbit's photos for example, and I admire the dedication and effort it takes to get there. I don't think I'd have the guts. Perhaps some day... And to be honest, I don't even know what to wear a CR with to look the part. XD

I've owned Schott, Aero, Johnson Leathers and wonderful hand crafted Aussie leathers. The Schott's I've owned have been as well made as any of them. But I agree that around 75% of their range doesn't interest me. But then only a modest percentage of Aero's range interest me (for different reasons).

The Fedora Lounge started as an offshoot of Indiana Jones related interests and has also strayed into hipster territory of late. Like Monitor I would feel uncomfortable wearing entire period outfits - it feels too close to a version of cosplay or dress ups to me. But I love other people's passions.

We've also become a bit of a tribute site to hand crafted and often very expensive items. I am comfortably off and can afford a $1200 jacket but I refuse to pay that amount. It takes the fun out of it. I like finding pre-owned things for modest amounts and making them live again. That's the creative spirit behind Dinerman's amazing posts. Mere money directed at the purchase of custom jackets is not as compelling to me as finding something interesting and pre-owned that fits.

Technonut said:

I was extremely active here in late 2006, throughout 2008. If one goes back and looks at the thread topics during that period in this forum, the majority dealing with leather jackets are related to A-2's, and Navy flight jackets, with very few regarding cafe racers, and motorcycle jackets in general. The HWM was, and still is popular, as well as the more stylish Golden-Era influenced half-belts available

I was surprised to see the shift towards MC jackets when I came back years later. At times, I jokingly call the Outerwear Forum 'The Fedora Saloon', instead of 'Lounge'. I quite enjoy my vintage look, and do my best to incorporate Golden Era clothing into my wardrobe... Not just jackets, but my entire ensemble, especially when I'm out-n-about. To me, that's the overall premise of this site, and what it's all about. What I've been seeing is a lot of 'biker-types' with some vintage-style MC jackets over modern T-shirts, and jeans for the most part.

I also miss seeing posts from older members such as Matt Deckard, Hemingway Jones, Baron Kurtz, and others, posting about actual vintage wool / fabric jackets, as well as overcoats, trench coats, etc.. Many truly interesting threads posted which are still occasionally dredged-up. Not knowing the actual reasons, I can make a guess why they do not post here as much, if at all these days. Folks were also able to post more freely about their 'lower-rung' jackets which had vintage style, without fear of being looked down-the-nose upon by other members.

The 'premise' of the Fedora Lounge is simple, and exactly how it's stated in the 'About Us':



I know that times change and all, but IMO, the 'premise' has veered off-course somewhat in this forum..

To the OP: I apologize for posting this in your thread, but the pretentiousness I see here at times these days really frosts my ass, and I have always been one to type my mind..

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It's an interesting point you've made here and as a person who surely falls into the category of poster with the M/C jacket over modern clothing genere I can appreciate that I am not someone fully committed to the vintage aesthetic. The outerwear of bygone eras is much more appealing to me than anything else from those periods. My body type is ill suited for almost anything vintage but I do have an appreciation for all of it and it's precisely that appreciation that brought me here in the first place. So I guess my point is, even if the majority of my wardrobe is modern, the part I actually care about the most has vintage roots and styling cues and so I contribute my pursuits in that arena in this forum.

For people to fear being looked down upon by other members here seems wrong to me. I've posted more than one outerwear item here that surely wasn't the popular choice and received plenty of positive feedback (and nothing ever derogatory). I think I understand what you are getting at but it's also important to understand we all bring our own style to the table and that might not include a historically accurate head to toe vintage ensemble. I joined this site in 2012 but really didn't contribute anything to it until about a year ago...I can certainly see your point about how the outerwear forum has become primarily concerned with leather jackets. I'd like to see more variety in this myself but it seems that all I buy these days is leather jackets!

Good discussion and points being made... I just want to clarify that I in no way meant to shed a negative light on the forum's MC owners, or anyone's choice of wardrobe. Like many other members of the Lounge, My wardrobe choices are based on the desire to live a vintage-lifestyle as much as possible, and I realize there are many more who gravitate towards specific articles of clothing... the articles which interest, and work best for them in their lifestyle.

Things are just expectantly different here to me than I was used to before years back, and I was attempting to communicate that difference, and how I view this forum now, compared to when I was active here in the past..

As for my opinion regarding some folks looking down on others who enjoy the lifestyle while not necessarily having the means to purchase many of the expensive jackets shown here, and going out of their way to point out the inaccuracies, dismissing certain countries of origin, less than stellar materials used etc.. I stand on that opinion.. It is blatantly evident in quite a few posts I've read, and also threads on less expensive alternatives, which actually were constructed in Golden Era vintage style for the most part.

In many cases, the expensive jackets shown here regularly are reproductions of garments which were geared, priced, and marketed to folks who actually had little financial resources available to them during those eras, and were fairly reasonably priced for the masses, while still exuding style, as well as durability. Kind of ironic to me that the same qualities today are priced out of the ordinary 'every man's' reach.

Just to show that I have no ill-feeling towards our MC'ling members wearing T-shirts and jeans, here's a similar pic of me a few years back... the difference is wearing a wife-beater instead of a more modern style T-shirt, along with a pair of vintage engineer boots: (click to enlarge)



Again, I apologize to the OP for running off-topic in their thread, and wish him the best in his quest to find the Schott jacket that works best...